The Edge Financial Daily
Thursday, 18 February 2010 11:12
In the first part of our interview with Gerakan adviser Tun Dr Lim Keng Yaik yesterday, he spoke about the problems plaguing both the Barisan Nasional (BN) and Pakatan Rakyat (PR) coalitions. What of his own party?
Lim expressed concern over whether his anointed successor, current Gerakan president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon, can take the party out of its decline.
Although the veteran politician said Koh was the best he had in terms of intellectual capacity and integrity, he feels that Koh is unable to make politically difficult decisions and provide leadership.
He thinks that Gerakan would need to go back to its core ideology based on a multiracial approach before it can pick itself up again.
Lim, who headed Gerakan for 27 years, believes that Gerakan has lost Penang for good.
“Should it (regain Penang)? No! We missed our chance. In cricket, they say you had a good innings and 39 years is a long and good one. What more do we want?” said Lim in his office in Bandar Utama in Petaling Jaya recently.
Lim, who was in government from 1972 to 2008, is also pessimistic about efforts to turn the country into a high-income economy.
The basis for a knowledge economy is human resource, he said, and to restructure this, the government would need to change its education policy.
On the controversy over the usage of the “Allah” word, Lim said that both sides of the divide were right and wrong at the same time.
“The issue has been over-politicised and maybe the solution lies with the Council of Rulers,” he added.
This is the second and final part of his interview with Sharon Tan, Cindy Yeap and Chan Kok Leong of The Edge Financial Daily (TEFD).
TEFD: Can Gerakan retake Penang?
LKY: No. (Laughs) Should it? No. You missed your chance. In cricket they said you had a good innings. A long and good innings of 39 years. What more do you want?
TEFD: What does Gerakan need to do to get back Penang? Gerakan is seen as Penang, Penang is Gerakan.
LKY: No more. The long innings is gone. Gerakan has to look after its base which has been lost. It is baseless. It has to revert to its ideological background. And it must play a more prominent part as the influencing partner in future politics to move towards our ideological path.
TEFD: Is Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon the right man for the job?
LKY: What to do? He was the best I had in terms of intellect and integrity. Nobody can fault me. But in terms of politics, he is still struggling. If he is not careful, there will be a quiet revolution within Gerakan.
TEFD: Now there is talk about reallocation of seats in Barisan Nasional (BN).
LKY: More so that we need an ideological approach rather than trying to maintain base lah. Then at least we are part of this ideological move to mature politics on a multiracial basis. Don’t think in terms of numbers or try to still be in government. Get that out of our bloody minds.
We had a good run in 39 years in a place where we used to have a base. So instead of hankering for your base, why don’t you follow your ideological path and choose partners which can fulfil your ideological base? After March 8, politics is going towards an ideological base that is multiracial in approach.
TEFD: Where do you see Gerakan in this? Gerakan is a multiracial party and the conscience of BN.
LKY: We always say that we are too far ahead of ourselves (laughs). That is why I keep saying that there will be a realignment in future.
TEFD: Which party has most to lose in this realignment?
LKY: Even if PAS joins Umno, do you think they can maintain the majority on a pure Malay, racist and Islamic agenda? You think they can? I don’t know.
TEFD: The numbers favour them…
LKY: I don’t think so. I think the young Malays if you get a charismatic multiracial Malay leadership, you may just beat them with a total block of non-Malays on their side.
You can get 60% and this new multiracial Malay leadership will get 40% but with overwhelming non-Malays. I am not saying Chinese and Indians only but with Kadazans and Ibans.
You try lah.
You think they can get 80% with Umno and PAS joining? The more you push, the more likely but there are also people in PAS that don’t think they can do it although Umno wished they would.
It takes a lot. That is why politics is very interesting and challenging in Malaysia. That’s why as a young man of 28 or 29, I got immersed in politics. I could see the challenge.
My thoughts and feelings could make a difference. I intended to make a difference.
But unfortunately 36 years of it makes no difference (laughs). I don’t know. If in my retirement I can still carry on explaining and guiding the people to make the right choice, I feel grateful that I am still alive today.
So in this respect, we need politicians who are more thinkers than those with personal agendas. We need people to think for our complicated society and challenges facing our country to allow the people to become part of this maturing of democratic politics.
TEFD: What is Gerakan’s ideological base now?
LKY: Multiracial, non-racial approach, not only care about Chinese even though your base is Chinese, but all other races.
TEFD: Gerakan used to have a lot of thinkers but…
LKY: Being in the beehive, the bees start to sting our own people until they cannot stand it, they start to leave.
TEFD: Are you advocating that Gerakan should get out of BN?
LKY: There is nothing to get out to. How to get out?
TEFD: Within BN there are no multiracial parties except in Sabah and Sarawak.
LKY: You see lah who is not working with the Ibans and Kadazans.
TEFD: Does Gerakan plan to go to East Malaysia?
LKY: You don’t tell people what you are going to do early. When PBS and Gerakan wanted to do the joint council, (former prime minister Tun Dr) Mahathir (Mohamad) saw it and killed it. Killed it!
Will (Tan Sri Abdul) Taib Mahmud stay? He has good control but will it split when he’s not there anymore? That will depend on who provides the leadership for the Ibans. Are they a satisfied lot? I don’t know.
How about in Sabah? Are the Kadazans okay? There is a big difference between (Tan Sri) Bernard Dompok and (Datuk) Joseph Pairin Kitingan. One is too complacent while the other one is still very much a reformist. Maybe (Gerakan) can even play second fiddle to DAP.
TEFD: What do you make of the “Allah” issue?
LKY: (After deep thought) Both sides are right and both sides are wrong. Using constitutional rights and universal rights, the Christians might be right. But in the context of Malaysia, they may be wrong. So both sides are right and both sides are wrong.
The issue has been over-politicised. To me you should let the Council of Rulers decide and take it away from the politics and then we may be able to maintain peace and harmony.
If they decide otherwise then so be it. Even if it is loaded on the Malay and Islam side, let it be. After all they are rulers.
That is the time for the constitutional monarchy to play its part. Take it off politics since it has been politicised. And to take it off from politics, let the rulers decide.
TEFD: You were in the cabinet in 2007 when the issue first came up. How did they get so far? Was it discussed at all?
LKY: Pak Lah (Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi) with one hand just brushed it off just like that. Bernard (Dompok) reported back to the Catholic church that they cannot do anything. So they went to the court to plead for their constitutional and universal rights.
You have a situation where the Peninsular Malays/Muslims feel bad but those in Sabah and Sarawak don’t feel bad because they are used to it.
In Sabah and Sarawak, they use the Bahasa (Malaysia) version because they are not well-versed in English while in the Peninsula they use English which uses the word God.
The court will rule on constitutional and universal rights but people are not prepared for that. So it’s better to refer back to the constitutional monarch which is the rulers in council.
TEFD: Tun, do you think we are more polarised now than before?
LKY: Yes. The implementation of the New Economic Policy. The rise of religious extremism. And the application of human and universal rights by the non-Malays. And education and facilities in schools and universities which have not been balanced over time.
I use that word because they have enough doctors and accountants and lawyers and yet the quotas still apply.
Opportunities in education and universities have not been balanced over time. This kind of things, you have to rebalance from time to time.
TEFD: Talking about a high-income economy, can we do it?
LKY: This is difficult. If they don’t change the education policy, they cannot achieve high-income economy status. If the education policy doesn’t change with the passage of time, to produce the right human resources for the needs of this country, then we will regress and not progress.
A high-income economy must be based on people, equipped with the best knowledge and retained for the country’s use. Then we may stand a chance. If not, we can talk till the cows come home and we will regress and not progress.
TEFD: So, isn’t the PPSMI reversal a step back for the high-income economy drive?
LKY: In my memorandum to Dr Mahathir, I said that Maths and Science should be taught in their mother tongue in primary schools while English periods should be increased.
And then English should be made the medium of instruction for Maths and Science in secondary schools.
In modern education methods, there are better ways of educating people in languages than what we are currently doing. We can use audio and video to teach languages instead of the rote system. For that, I used to argue with Dong Jiao Zong in 1972 when I was still in MCA and asked them, how much Chinese do you want a Chinese to know?
The East Ender Londoner speaks English which none of us can understand and yet they are Englishmen.
Equip students with enough content in Chinese to enable them to read and write and converse in Mandarin. Or do they want every Chinese to be a literature expert and quote proverbs only Chinese in China understand? If 3,000 words is enough I can’t see how they can’t pump the students with the words within six years.
I’m English educated but can they say that I’m not a Chinese. Those days I couldn’t even speak Mandarin although I’ve picked it up now and can give a two-hour lecture in Mandarin without being able to read Chinese.
They want their mother tongue education, forgetting they are in Malaysia. Undoubtedly, the Chinese Malaysian is very appreciated in the last 20 years in the international circuit.
To those who have been exposed, the Chinese from here are better appreciated than those from other countries like mainland China, Taiwan, Indonesia, Hongkong and Singapore.
Chinese from Singapore are very educated but have their noses in their foreheads. China Chinese are hillbillies although they are very much different today.
Those from Taiwan will eat you up and swallow you lock, stock and barrel. There won’t even be bones coming out.
And the Hongkong Chinese only care for themselves and nobody else.
There is nothing to say about the Indonesian Chinese as they have even lost their names.
To appreciate that, the Chinese in Malaysia, being influenced by other races here, their mannerisms, eating habits and appreciation of multiracial society that makes them what they are, should be confident of that.
People outside the country compliment the Chinese Malaysians for being well mannered, know how to mix with people, caring and don’t impose on people. All these good characteristics come from here.
What’s wrong?
If 3,000 characters are enough to maintain our mother tongue then that should be good enough. And then we can spend more time learning English and Bahasa Malaysia.
There is no doubt that the Malays in this country need help. In any country, it’s the rural people who need the most help. It so happens that the rural people in Malaysia, 90% are Malays. It’s a rural problem and not just a Malay problem. Like Dr Mahathir in The Malay Dilemma says, “You change the environment, you change the race.”
The NEP should help Malays and enlarge the cake to allow others to have a piece of the cake. But you must help the great proportion of Malays who live in the rural areas and change their environment, state of mind and thinking.
What the government has failed to do is help build entrepreneurs from the Malay masses. Although professionally they have built up enough people, there are not enough businessmen. The Chinese entrepreneurs are needed to help.
Instead of being jealous of them because they have the experience and capability, they should make use of them by instituting genuine bumiputera-Chinese joint ventures. Genuine and not Ali Baba style. Incentivised and monitored by the government, by certain departments.
If we can monitor capital and business structure in the country, why can’t we incentivise these local joint ventures for a purpose? That is to build up local entrepreneurship among the Malays.
But those who are not working must be removed without fear or favour, whether they are Umno or not. But it must be monitored by the government so that those who are sleeping, lazy or have their own agenda should be removed and replaced by more genuine ones.
This will stop (Datuk Seri) Anwar (Ibrahim) from saying that we are building Umnoputeras and not bumiputeras. But we have wasted 40 years. The ones who think they can become rich quickly by joining politics should be condemned and kept out of politics and government. You know it but don’t dare say it. I’m saying it now.
In a way, I’m saying that Umno should remove these fellas. There are 50,000 Class F contractors, what for? The famous words are sub, sub, sub, sub. No wonder, our computer labs have only two “tiangs” and one roof and then collapse.
If you appreciate the experience and capability of the Chinese, why can’t we do it? The Malays should be inculcated with the value that you can make money not only through your own people but through others as well. It can be tax-free and exposure to capital when there is a Malay partner. It can be incentivised by the government and monitored.
I always ask, do you need a Malay to help a Malay?
When oil palm went up, it benefited the 75% Malays. 50% of the oil palm is produced by Felda and 25% by PNB corporates.
But I’m a Chinaman who has helped the small Malay stakeholders be it rubber or oil palm planters.
They wanted to subsidise cooking oil when the bulk of it is consumed by Chinese. Want to die ah? Taxing the poor Malay to subsidise the Chinese. They wanted to impose excess profit taxes on oil palm because of envy of KLK, IOI’s profits but they forgot about Golden Hope, Sime Darby and Guthrie and that 50% of the smallholders are from Felda.
I tell you, I give up la talking to this government.
I suggest you form a new party and name it ‘BERAKAN”
Siao (Crazy) doctor, always siao till the day he die. BUT
Shall I say, I told you so that KTK is done? But don’t take it for granted that Gerakan will just fold and not cause problem.
Siao Doctor is saying Gerakan has no place to go to because its leaders cannot find a place in PR. In other words, the leaders only will move if they get something substantial for themselves instead of doing it for what they suppose to be fighting for. He is right for all practical purpose. Sad to say, like old family business that keep going just so the relatives have a job although not making money..
Pathetic if you ask me even Siao Doctor. Close shop, make radical change and renew even if you have to start over. Otherwise, don’t complain about the Malays holding on to entitlement and racism..
LKY: What to do?
Sigh! There u r, Tsu Koon. Brains & integrity isn’t the be-all and end-all of politics. U need leadership, charisma, principles. Alas, u r weak and, I am sorry to be so blunt, in all these 3 departments.
LKY says: return to yr ideological roots. Stop the flirt or Gerakan will be buried forever be buried in the dunes of history! How can one cavort with the likes of BN and hold their heads high or claim they have a soul! Nay, that’s immiscible, like oil and water.
As for Najib’s knowledge economy and high-income rant; that’s just him ranting and sloganeering as always. The termite-infested educaation system supports nothing more than peons, porters (or bag-carriers) and postal boys (maybe messengers). Anyone can put the Education Minister Muhyiddin thru some simple tests and I think he will flop; he just ain’t got the brains to be up there save for politicking.
Tsu koon, u shud consider packing up and joining PR. At least they have the ideological substance. And begin humbly anew from there. That’s just a bit of advice which u probably think u don’t need becos u have a princeton Ph. D and i …well..i have none! But I have common sense and a survival instinct which u have none!
tun lky: you know the implications of nep, you acknowledge the rise of religious extremism, you know how the quota system weaken our education sector and the country competitiveness.
and yet, YOU & YOUR PARTY DO NOTHING and YOU AND YOUR PARTY CANNOT DO ANYTHING.
if gerakan still want to claim some redidual dignity, gerakan should just close shop.
typo, redidual should read residual.
LKY: “..we need politicians who are more thinkers than those with personal agendas.”
Nail on the head. But alas, in BN there is NONE! NONE. NONE. If there is even one, uncompromising ONE, then we wud not be in this shit!
NONE. Not one.
He condemned d system like a pure saint; yet he forgot he was n is part of d system, n he n his family members benefited fr d system, even made a NUT 4 ruining d nation 4 39 yrs
WTF!
LKY: “I tell you, I give up la talking to this government.”
Ha, ha. Now u r talking what we have been talking for the last 30 years. Where were u….’katak dibawah tempurong?
The Rakyat has also given up talking tto the government. We want a change after half a century of BN nonsense…..actually after 1970.
His message is very simple: All Penang voters must BURY Gerakan in d next GE!
///LKY: You don’t tell people what you are going to do early. When PBS and Gerakan wanted to do the joint council, (former prime minister Tun Dr) Mahathir (Mohamad) saw it and killed it. Killed it!///
Why did you allow Mamak to bully you all those 22 years? You could have joined UMNO 46 and possibly sent Mamak packing.
keng yaik
you need very strong personality and leadership ; no hesitation to karate chop when karate chop neccessary.
This Lim Keng Yaik all talk rubbish.He even admitted that he gave up talking to the government.What a whole lot of rubbish.Now that he can say anything without being held responsible anymore he can say anything,just like Mahathir.I see similarity between these 2 old man.They made lots of $$ while in the cabinet and now both retired.Ah both are corrupted too.
hahaha, kelakar la.
///tun lky: you know the implications of nep, you acknowledge the rise of religious extremism, you know how the quota system weaken our education sector and the country competitiveness.
and yet, YOU & YOUR PARTY DO NOTHING and YOU AND YOUR PARTY CANNOT DO ANYTHING./// (#4 by -ec-)
Why must tun lky and his party do something to save the country?? If they do something, they will be seen as rebels in BN and UMNO will not allow them to have share in perks, contracts, positions etc.
Of course tun lky is free to say anything now as he had already got what he wanted from BN.
I am surprised why Kit imported this interview into his blog.
Honestly, I have no respect for any MCA or Gerakan leaders. They pander to UMNO’s whims just to remain n power. They talk big when they are no more in power.
LKY should realie that he has sold out Chinese rights and made them into what they are today – pendatangs.
Lim Keng Yaik talks a lotta cock.
Gerakan was once a multi racial party with prominent Malay and Indian intellectuals supporting it. Who came in from MCA and decided to turn it into a chinese party to challenge MCA?
In the past 20 years, Gerakan and MCA squabbled over little scraps while big brother UMNO had their way with the entire country.
Gerakan, the reason why you are irrelevant today is because you forgot who were your base. Instead of protecting the people who voted for you, you pandered to UMNO’s demands and fought with MCA for more chinese votes.
What ideals can you claim to represent today? Nothing. You talk about multi racialism, but that is not a political ideology or aspiration. You can’t run a country claiming to want to run it based on multi racialism alone. There has to be something more substantial to your political platform.
Even today, LKY still has no idea what political path Gerakan should take. Truly, this is a lost party.
“There is nothing to say about the Indonesian Chinese as they have even lost their names.” – LKY
Ah..haaaa!! Looking at how Gerakan and MCA have been docile, impotent and subservient to UMNO, the statement above could well have been applicable to the Chinese in Malaysia if not for sufficient number of right thinking Malaysians supporting the DAP and opposition’s cause to check UMNO’s over-zealous agendas.
“They wanted to subsidise cooking oil when the bulk of it is consumed by Chinese. Want to die ah? Taxing the poor Malay to subsidise the Chinese. They wanted to impose excess profit taxes on oil palm because of envy of KLK, IOI’s profits but they forgot about Golden Hope, Sime Darby and Guthrie and that 50% of the smallholders are from Felda. I tell you, I give up la talking to this government.” – LKY
Isn’t it simple to see? – BN is just a stupid government!!
“keng yaik
you need very strong personality and leadership, no hesitation to karate chop when karate chop necessary.” (#10 by chengho)
As a matter of fact, Gerakan has been karate chopped by DAP/PR and buried for good. Even LKY has spilled the beans as to why Gerakan has lost Penang for good.
For once, this upside down NUT is talking sense!
At least he can face the truth….
People change with the times but BN hoped they could just keep plundering forever.
Is there credibility in what you say Tun LKY? You say Gerakan’s ideological base is “multiracial, non-racial approach”; that the reason the country is polarized is wrongful “implementation of the NEP and the rise of religious extremism”; that the country’s economy cannot achieve high income status because of our deplorable education system.
Yet you, as then Gerkaan President, kept Gerakan within BN’s under UMNO’s hegemony of race/religion and acquiesced in all of big brother’s policies (that you now criticised when out of govt).
How do you see Gerakan as the “conscience of BN” whether then under your watch and now under your protégé (KTK)’s watch? I am baffled. As you said, under vote, 60% of Gerakan members would opt out of BN after ceasing to be relevant since 308 political tsunami. Far from still believing that Gerakan is “conscience” of BN/UMNO it may prick their own conscience that they are living a lie and make-believe!
So why is Gerakan still in the BN?
When asked if you were advocating that Gerakan should get out of BN, you say “There is nothing to get out to. How to get out?”
What does “nothing to get out to” mean – that Gerakan is awaiting an invitation from PR or DAP? Its not a bad idea. DAP is the only political party consistently improving its electoral performance over the years, and besides it is also ideologically “multiracial”, not different from Gerakan’s founding ideological principles which makes Gerakan joining DAP or the wider grouping in PR contemplatable. Why not ask your protégé KTK to talk to DAP’s supremo LKS???
Or do the words “there is nothing to get out to” mean that there is no platform assured of giving Gerakan leaders a landing of ministerial positions or a share of crumbs in the patronage/gravy train system to which they are accustomed in BN?
This should not be the case as you yourself say that “we need politicians who are more thinkers than those with personal agendas. We need people to think for our complicated society and challenges facing our country to allow the people to become part of this maturing of democratic politics..”
If you believe so in what you say, especially the part of Gerakan returning to and touching base with its traditional ideological base, then advise KTK to forget about his Ministerial KPI portfolio and heed the wishes of 60% of Gerakan members to get out… Why is KTK still justifying the stay within BN on the illusion that Umno has learned and reformed post-March 2008 when most non-Malay Malaysians and even many Malay Malaysians some including present or ex BN’s politicians Zaid, Ku Li and Chua Jui Meng would disagree? And even you – when you say “I tell you, I give up la talking to this government”.
All those who after leaving the Government will only tell the truth about UMNO which obviously is a pain in the arse for all non UMNOputras. I must say that LKY is talking sense after all these years and he is not a “siau (mad) doctor but pretend to be one to camouflage himself against UMNO.
Obviously he knows that GERAKAN is a vanishing party and such truth can only be told after leaving the government.
It only tell you that all these while all the ministers in the other component parties are pandering to UMNO and forced to shut their gap and keep serving the UMNO’s agenda.
That applies to all the other component parties as it is obvious that only UMNO is running the government and the rest are just wall papers.
I only hope that the rakyat will remember that any vote for any party in the Barisan is only a vote to UMNO. UMNO will never change. It can only get worse, a good example is PERKASA which UMNO is making it as a camouflage to balance the 1Malaysia campaign.
Both LKY (not d little red dot’s one) n KTK sold their souls n bola 2 Umno B
They would pale beside this young girl who wrote:
“Both my parents are Malay. My mum’s heritage includes Chinese, Thai and Arab, while my dad is Minangkabau. Due to my skin colour, I am often mistaken for a Chinese.
………..
I wish that Malaysia would truly live up to the tourism spin of Malaysia truly Asia . Malaysians to lead – whatever their ethnic background. Only ONE NATIONALITY MALAYSIAN. No Malays, No Chinese, No Indians – ONLY MALAYSIANS.. Choose whatever religion one is comfortable with.
Remember it was Dr M & UMNO who destroyed Tunku’s Malaysia.”
Go read the excellent truly anak M’sia article:
http://naththinks.blogspot.com/2010/01/excellant-article-from-great.html
chengho: “keng yaik, you need very strong personality and leadership”
Why should he?
Hasn’t Keng Yaik already retired from being the part of the leadership?
He should just live out the rest of his life by spending more time with his family, his grand children, and don’t be like that old doctor from Kedah…
chengho: “no hesitation to karate chop when karate chop neccessary.”
It looks like he has already given his ‘karate chop’ when in the interview, he said, “I tell you, I give up la talking to this government.”
bohliao: “Both LKY (not d little red dot’s one) n KTK sold their souls n bola 2 Umno B
They would pale beside this young girl who wrote: ‘Both my parents are Malay. My mum’s heritage includes Chinese, Thai and Arab, while my dad is Minangkabau. Due to my skin colour, I am often mistaken for a Chinese.’ ”
With more & more instances where it is increasingly difficult to identify a person’s ethnic background by appearance alone, it is a sure sign that racism will never finally triumph…
To be fair this our LKY……I agree with his view about Chinese Malaysian living in peace and harmony with other races in our country.
Chinese Malaysians should be very proud of themselves and their achievements…..a great asset to our country in the globalised world.
BN is led by UMNO a communal party based on race/religion. Gerakan as the “conscience of BN” claims that Gerakan’s purported multiracial approach could ameliorate the sharper edges of BN’s and by extension UMNO’s policies. This is however a lie. Instead of effecting internal reform of BN/UMNO by Gerakan’s so called inclusive multi-racial ideology, Gerakan, like other component parties, gets reformed to subservience instead by big brother UMNO that controls and dangles the crumbs of ministerial positions – the fountain of patronage rewards – to be competed between leaders of Gerakan and other component parties like MCA, MIC and other East Malaysian parties…..So don’t kid yourself that Gerakan can revitalise and return to its ideological roots based on multiracialism for so long as it remains within the BN as appendage to UMNO apparatus and have to play by UMNO’s rules to get more share of the largesse than the competitor leader of the other component parties. This is common dilemma of all BN component parties.
When LKY says Gerakan already has a “good run in 39 years in a place where we used to have a base. So instead of hankering for your base, why don’t you follow your ideological path and CHOOSE PARTNERS which can fulfil your ideological base? After March 8, politics is going towards an ideological base that is multiracial in approach” what does all this means? They cannot be partners within BN because the only common intention of all partners within BN is to access and compete between themselves the gravy train : it has to be “partners” outside BN, on the PR’s side that also claim to be inclusive like the DAP but could offer no gravy train at this moment!
During the long 22 years in power under Doctor Mahathir, Doctor Lim Keng Yaik and Doctor Ling Liong Sik – all the doctors – had also good run, marginalised and removed party rivals and reigned as kings of the parties like dictators, and later after retiring from their positions all become Tuns, anointed weak successors, and then offer “advice” from a distance over a cup of tea on why their successors somehow in spite of other virtues could not measure up as each of them.
To me all this talk is to indirectly try absolve one’s own responsibility from the mess in the party/country by pushing the buck to one’s own successors whose very fact of being esconced in the present positions, doing nothing good for party or country, is also due to one’s own deliberative actions!
You talk about bad characters of Chinese in Singapore, China, Taiwan and Indonesia!
We Chinese in Malaysia are no good either!When you’re in the cabinet, do you dare to oppose or criticise the present gomen for their wrongdoings?
Now that you’re no more in politics and have achieved your aim, you seem to be able to talk sense after all.
Because of wealth and money at that time, you’re willing to betray and after you’ve got what you wanted, you “redeem” yourself.
As long as there’re MCA, Gerakan or any other BN component parties, there are lots of them like you.
Even in DAP, there is one called “Hee”, who’s willing to betray the Perakian Chinese, just because of a Camry.
Conclusion: Malaysian Chinese are selfish and betrayers!
D other common factor amg these three lo-kun crooks is their children r happy n prosperous, millionaires/billionaires; objective achieved
His concluding remark:
“I tell you, I give up la talking to this government.”
is the very reason why change is inevitable and imminent.
Jib is now the only umno bull charging away in the unlevel umno playing field.
“Conclusion: Malaysian Chinese are selfish and betrayers! ”
Thor. You mean just because that freak surname Hee is a Chinese, the entire Chinese race in Malaysia is condemned to be selfish and betrayers. Is this a fair conclusion. I think you better amend it before getting more caustic remarks here.
“We had a good run in 39 years in a place where we used to have a base.” LKY
I think you are talking through you’re a$$ that you have a good run. Please don’t humiliate yourself and others. Yes, you have more than 30 years of appeasement, compromise, capitulation and selling yourself. Piss off.
“We need people to think for our complicated society and challenges facing our country to allow the people to become part of this maturing of democratic politics.”LKY
The rakyat essentially need leadership. There is nothing complicated about our society. It is a$$ politicians forever making the people divided, making them see enemies behind every tree. You talk so hauntingly about multi-racism, and yet you have never failed to support a corrupted, racist, and bigot regime for years. So just shut up.
“”Will (Tan Sri Abdul) Taib Mahmud stay? He has good control but will it split when he’s not there anymore? That will depend on who provides the leadership for the Ibans. Are they a satisfied lot? I don’t know.”LKY
Taib Mahmud provides leadership for Ibans? Your a$$ is talking again. Taib bullies and exploits everybody including the Ibans, got it? I wonder why there still stupid people interviewing and seeking your stupid views.
‘’That is the time for the constitutional monarchy to play its part. Take it off politics since it has been politicised. And to take it off from politics, let the rulers decide.’’LKY
You have made a fatal assumption but of course I can’t expect an ass like you to see it.
Enough, I think I better stop reading you’re a$$ views.
yeah 39 good years as a running dog for umno, should have been put to sleep by now.
///When oil palm went up, it benefited the 75% Malays. 50% of the oil palm is produced by Felda and 25% by PNB corporates.///–Tun LKY
In terms of equity share capital, there account for ZERO ringgit in the computation of share capital owned by Malays. That is part of the reasons why Malays’ ownership of share capital remains at 18% for decades.
In 2006 AAB and Najib refuted the findings of ASLI that Malays owned more than the 30% target, and that EPU would prove ASLI wrong within a month. 40 months later and with the change of PMship, EPU has yet to prove ASLI wrong. What we heard was Khairy said that the number 30% should be raised to 60%, and in time , it would be 90%. NEP was just an excuse, and 30% is utilised for the same reasons why blind-vision 2020 was mentioned, and now 1Malaysia is resorted to.