At 1.40 pm at the SS2 Police Station, Petaling Jaya, I lodged the following report against the MCA President and Transport Minister Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and the Kuala Dimensi Sdn. Bhd (KDSB) CEO and MP for Bintulu, Datuk Seri Tiong King Sing asking for police to commence immediate investigations into Tiong allegations against Ong, particularly over Tiong’s RM10 million donation to Ong last year for MCA divisions.
My police report, SEA PARK/006222/09 reads:
“This is to lodge a police report on what appeared in all the media today, including New Straits Times, Star, the Sun, Sin Chew Daily, Nanyang Siang Pau, China Press, Guang Ming, Kwong Wah Yit Poh and Oriental Daily,Berita Harian, as well as electronic media like Malaysiakini and Malaysian Insider viz:
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Statement by the chief executive of Kuala Dimensi Sdn Bhd and MP for Bintulu, Datuk Seri Tiong King Sing that he donated RM10 million to Transport Minister and MCA President, Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat last year;
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Statement by the deputy CEO of Kuala Dimensi Sdn. Bhd Datuk Faizal Abdullah that Ong had used the company’s jet five times incurring US$40,000 for the services; and
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Denial by Ong that he had received RM10 million “loan” from Tiong last year and with regard to Faizal’s allegation, said that his office had yet to receive invoices for the services.
Grave questions whether criminal offences had been committed in the form of abuses of power and even corrupt practices by Ong and Tiong should be immediately investigated by the police and MACC.
Police should investigate this together with the death threats which Ong had alleged he received recently, whether connected with the RM12.5 billion Port Klang Free Zone scandal or otherwise.”
Somebody is not telling the truth, Ong or Tiong or both. Either Ong should step down as MCA President and Transport Minister or Tiong should step down as Barisan Nasional Barisan Backbenchers’ Club (BNBBC Chairman), or both should step down.
The latest allegations by Tiong and denial by Ong, together with the recent death threats at Ong as alleged by the MCA President, raise even more questions about the RM12.5 billion PKFZ scandal and cast a most adverse reflection on the integrity and good governance of the Najib premiership.
It can not be more true when people say politic is a cruel game and the game of survival.
What happen now on the claim of RM10 million donation to MCA also can be very true. But why disclose it now? Was it not normal, especially in Malaysia where business and politic are vey much like a twin brothers?
I believe it was not easy legally to smear OTK but such a disclosure as it was a norm practice to make such a donation to political party when the politician from that party was has the minister to approved on such a huge project. Was it corruption? Yes and No depending one moral standards, but in any way it will never can be proof as corruption in court.
Flying private jets with paying? Also true. Since you did not send in the invoices how the ministry know how much to pay? The problem was that are they dare enough to bill MOT when it was the MOT who has a say in the PKFZ project? So it was a norm to provide hospitality to the master even the master has not intention to take it. This was perfectly the way of doing business in any place on earth. So what the fuss is all about now? Simply the relationship has turn sour. Again, it was stupid to claim that MOT has not paid as in the first place it was them who has not provide the bills.
Since you nasty with me I have to nasty with you too.
Any way, to sum IT up. PKFZ is the most evil and the single biggest evil project conceptualized to reward the Chinese Politicians who has been faithfully serving the its master U for the past 50 years. It was the final ang pow that Mahathir give to his ally before they retired as TUNs.
It was the people who has foot the bills. Even the private jets was come from the people. So it should be people like you and me who should ask, that MOT has not pay the fuel and not KDSB!
This news about Ti-ong is super juicy.
Was the person who gave Ong death threat Tiong?
Did Tiong using that 10 million to Tiong (trap in Foochow) Ong? to bribe him so that the investigation will not be done or to prevent any information to be released. Or it was Ong who threatened Tiong for the 10 million for not releasing the information.
Now the information was released and Tiong has to publicise all the information.
10 million in cash as party fund. This is the black money politics! very serious issue.
Tiong had the bank record, at least. Now how can he prove that he handed it over to Ong?
Tiong won a name in Sibu last year (or a year before) for going against the real gangsters. So, will he be able to survive the threat from a bigger gangster like MCA?
But I cannot imagine a politician from a small place like Tiong has so much money. I want some!
I think Dato Tiong King Sing is obliged to provide answer to these questions:
1) As a CEO of a Bursar Malaysia quoted company, does Dato Tiong practise very often that RM10 millions will deliberately be given away to someone in terms of cash notes without requiring the recipient to sign a payment voucher or to give an official receipt as a proof of receiving cash payment?
2) Where did the RM10 millions alleged by Dato Tiong as given to Ong Tee Keat come from?
3) If the RM10 millions was not given to Dato Sri Ong Tee Keat, who would this money be paid to as a repayment of debt? Was it a commercial bank because of a repayment of bank loan?
4) After giving away the RM10 millions to Dato Sri Ong, as alleged by Dato Tiong, will Dato Tiong still be financially sound to pay back his debt to his other creditor?
5) Did Dato Tiong make use of the fund of Bursar Malaysia quoted company?
10 million out of 12.5 billion is peanuts. It is like giving a single peanut to a monkey. Little wonder the monkey is angry and has made a police report over that peanut…
Somebody is not telling the truth, Ong or Tiong or both. Either Ong should step down as MCA President and Transport Minister or Tiong should step down as Barisan Nasional Barisan Backbenchers’ Club (BNBBC Chairman), or both should step down. – LKS
It doesn’t matter who is telling the truth because both Ong and Tiong are liar. The situation must be grave enough for anyone of them to go for broke. If UMNO allow this to continue more names will be implicated, I think we’ll just have to get ready for another farce from UMNO and BN to stop all the shit-stirring.
LETTER REQUESTING FOR DONATIONS FROM DATUK SERI TIONG KING SING
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/25625/84/
Some of the MCA members immediately condemned Tiong for telling the ‘tr?th’. How did these members know that Ong did not ask or take the money. They must be following Ong 24 hours a day. This is equally difficult to prove compared to Ong asking/taking the money. Why no one expressed gratitude to Tiong for revealing the ‘tr?th’? Why these people are so eager in denying right away before having any clue?
Have you thought about this. If I were Ong, I can ask Tiong for the money saying it is for MCA, but I actually put it into my pocket.
RM10mil is small compared to the billion ringgit PKFZ project but it is too big an amount to stash in anyone’s account without a trace.
Of course there will be the usual claims that others too are receiving such generosity but I think that cannot excuse such political bribes where the project(PKFZ) was allowed such massive overruns that are charged to taxpayers.
So yes, the PM has a major problem on his hands with this really hot potato.
This and other stories really show that Malaysia TRULY Amazing.
http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/08/malaysiakini-and-truly-amazing-stories.html
Elementary Mr Watson,
MACC, Ting and Ong are all from Barisan Nasional.
Unfortunately, Ting is not from Pakatan. If he were from Pakatan, MACC would have commenced investigations almost the very hour he made the allegations and probably held his assistant overnight at its 14 floor office.
If MACC could not find a single wrong doing in PKFZ dealings thus far, what make you think it will find any wrong doing in this matter.
Believe me, no BN man will ever be hauled to any court of law on corruption.
RM10 million is sup sup sway in a world of trillions
How much for the BN educational agrobiotech trip to Taiwan?
Again, chip chip
Ex-Taiwan president Ah Bian can easily teach MCA chaps a trick or two about money laundering n Swiss bank accounts
Tiong and Ong share share lah – just like their surnames, common ‘ong’
Any comments from ex-MB of Selangor?
Investigate … seize & search … interview … MACC … Hahahahaahahaa … let them all sweat! Now is time for us all to sit back and watch this new show. May they all get nailed good and proper!!!
Dato Tiong King Sing’s right-hand man Faizal Abdullah accused Dato Sri Ong Tee Keat for default in payment for 4 flight chartered services provided by Dato Tiong’s private jet company to the staff of Ministry of Transport, including Dato Sri Ong.
However, Dato Sri Ong replied that MOT did not receive the claim invoice from Dato Tiong’s company.
Does Dato Tiong’s company always forget to do billing after providing the services to its clients? Does the same problem happen also to a Bursar Malaysia quoted company, where Dato Tiong serves as the group CEO? How can Dato Tiong’s company survive as a going concern if the company can be negligent in sending out billing after providing services to the clients? Is the private jets company operated by Dato Tiong a charity organization? Can I make a request to Dato Tiong on behalf of the old folks home located at my village in order to get a free private jet chartered services for visiting Sarawak in order to bring joys to the lonely senior citizens living in the old folks home?
//Now is time for us all to sit back and watch this new show.// – SpeakUp
Yes it is Showtime!
Leaving aside for time being whether corruption is implicated, this allegation by Tiong of RM10 million donation to Ong is not going to do either of them or for that mater the BN any good. Even against the backdrop of shadowy and often cosy relationship between politics and business, the questions are why would Tiong make such an allegation if it did not happen; and even if it did happen, who would trust Tiong to make financial contributions if after making a donation, whether for political or personal purposes, he thereafter, when relationship sours, make it public to embarrassment of recipient.
This development focuses greater spotlight to the RM12.5 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) scandal, and how or if such a donation, if true, has any part to play in this scandal in particular how it affected relationship between the transport minister and a contractor for the PKFZ.
This development deals another blow to MCA already beleaguered by the PKFZ scandal and internal bickering between Ong & Chua Soi Lek.
It also gives Najib’s administration/UMNO leadership a splitting headache as to how to mange public perception, contain fall out which depends on also who the leadership will side – the MCA President or Bintulu MP of Sarawak’s State Democratic Action Party and current leader of the Backbenchers’ Club at Parliament when both are within BN camp!
On one hand, Ong is president of MCA the second biggest component party; on the other Tiong is wealthy and reputedly never shirk from a fight to the finish. Their fight may open Pandora box on the culture of money politics/relationship between business and politics that BN under leadership of UMNO breeds.
When there is an allegation of donation in public to media which is not withdrawn and in fact reafirmed by the maker and flatly denied by the other side implicated (buttressed by police report), then only one side can be telling the truth and the other lying.
Here the problem is the public taint will affect both the one saying the truth and the other lying in equal proportion!
Even as Pakatan Rakyat is managing its crisis – the differences in position between DAP/PKR and PAS as epitomized by controversy of beer sales in Selangor – the Barisan Nasional too is now confronted by the Tiong/Ong’s public spat triggered by the PKFZ scandal that promises to throw more dirty linens to the public domain on top of the recent fiasco of Teoh’s inexplicable death in MACC custody!
Is Malaysian politics in a crisis? What next?
Jeff … my take is simple. Tiong who acts like he can get away with anything has done too big a boo boo with PKFZ. The cr@p is too big to cover and heads need to roll. Hence, the current crisis between Tiong and Ong. :)
Onlooker … such jets are not only used by Ong, other ministers and royalty too. Its easy to find out. You need to go to the airport and many people work at airports. :)
UMNO is now smiling … MIC – DOWN! … MCA – SOON!
If PR does not learn it will head in the same direction. BN are kept together because of the money they can pump out of the nation, there is no SOLIDARITY due to service.
Anyone bringing the hotdogs? I got popcorn and Coke.
Correction: ‘….Here the problem is the public taint will affect both the one saying the truth and the other lying equally (not in equal proportion).’
What is 10 million when one can reap billions in return. It’s a damn good investment. And it’s all the rakyat money. These are bloodsuckers who are worst than alongs. By his own admission that that he bribed Ong, Tiong should resign. And if Ong is quilty, he should be behind bars. And don’t forget those equally guilty ones who approved the payment knowing that it is fraudulent claims. They all must think that it’s a “free for all” lottery.
“Onlooker … such jets are not only used by Ong, other ministers and royalty too. Its easy to find out. You need to go to the airport and many people work at airports.” (Speakup)
Speakup,
I don’t really feel fanciful about free private jets chartered services, as those provided by Dato Tiong to the friendly Politicians or Royalty.
However, all my questions for Dato Tiong to answer were actually meant to find out whether such a Bursar Malaysia quoted company as Wijaya Baru Global Berhad is a properly managed company. The interest of the retail stock investors have to be protected!
The question is not whether MCA received the RM10 million donation but who received it and how many YBs in MCA know about it, consented to it or against it. Can Chua Jui Meng enlighten us in this case?
If indeed I have received pecuniary and financial benefits for myself or the Party, there will be more reasons for me to protect the interests of the givers, as opposed to proceeding to expose their misdeeds. By doing so, I am risking my personal and family safety as well as my own credibility. – OTK
But you don’t have credibility, and you and your family should be the safest in Malaysia since you got friends both in the Malay institutions and underworld!
Are Tiong and Ong from Pakatan Rakyat? If they are not, then no need to investigate. MACC is interested in PR’s members and small sum of money. MACC does not know how to count multi million Malaysia Ringgit unless Brother Kit Siang can provide MACC the conversion formulae to cows and cars to make life easy for MACC.
You want the conversion formula for cars and cars in BM or English?
Maybe MACC officers are like the UM reporter who guessed that “ultra vires” equates to “insult”.
Just sit back and watch this Malaysian version of ???, starring Dato Sri OTK and Dato Tiong! Let’s enjoy the show and see who eventually wins!
??? = Devil fighting Devil (gui da gui)
Statements of admission admitting to corrupt practices i.e. evidence of the commission of a crime sometimes come from the culprits themselves and no one needs to lodge police reports before police could initiate investigations.
鬼打鬼?
I don’t understand the bit about him ‘risking his credibility’. Does credibility have a local meaning which is like ‘commercial value’?
Do we see MACC officers scurrying into OTK’s and TKS’s offices and homes and drag away maids, airtickets, cars, cows, computers, LCD screens, Learjets, etc before we can utter 10 million?
Do we see MACC officers inviting OTK and TKS to MACC’s HQ for midnight Q and A sessions?
You bet after investigation, nothing criminal lah
Perhaps the most significant discovery will be that a nonMCA tycoon from East M’sia actually owns MCA – the cat will eventually be let out of the bag
YB
Tiong has also stated that this $10 million was not the only donation he made.
So, you should question Tiong in Parliament to disclose details of ALL donations made to MCA, how much and who were the beneficiaries and ask Ong Gua Ta Kut and MCA to account for it.
Perhaps Tiong also personally funded the BN delegation who went to Taiwan and HK to ‘study agri techniques’ there!! This should be easy to verify from Parliamentary records.
dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race.
Domplaypuks says: “We are all of 1 race, the Human Race.”
On second thoughts, I think there are people who belong to the Inhuman Race. Just like Tuhan and Hantu, so also is there Human and Namuh.
In UMNO we have the association of rich Malay elites making sure that the common Malay is put in his proper place subservient to BN
In MCA we have the association of rich Chinese elites making sure that the common Chinese is put in his proper place subservient to BN
In MIC we have the association of rich Indian elites making sure that the common Indian is put in his proper place subservient to BN
what a wonderful gang of crooks Malaysians have been voting into power for the past 30 years.
Let the countdown begin. Now, what are the AG and the MACC going to do about this? When Wee Choo Keong make an unsubstantiated allegation of underworld connections against his former DAP colleagues in his blog ranting, the AG, without waiting for Wee to make a police report immediately called for an investigation, which resulted in the death of Teo Beng Hock.
If such a miserable rat like Wee Choo Keong can move the entire machinery of the law enforcement to act in haste, I think the allegation of a big fish like Tiong King Sing should be more credible and reliable to move the heavy hands of the AG, the Police and the MACC to do the necessary. So start your countdown counter and if possible will LKS have a countdown on this blog to show how long it would take the MACC to act?
Malaysians are waiting with bated breath about another exposé to the never-ending stinking PKFZ scandals.
I believe that if this episode is not contained expeditiously, the stink will spread to UMNO sooner than later. I don’t believe that it is the MCA which is eating the entire PKFZ cake alone without raising the ire and jealousy of UMNO. The ease in which billions were approved and thrown into the pit by institutions controlled by UMNO suggests that many hands were involved. And the amount is not piddling but mind-boggling.
I also believe that Ong Tee Keat will be a big casualty of the entire affair. He might lose the MCA presidency to Chua Soi Lek with the help of unseen hands. This is because Ong Tee Keat will be blamed for handling the whole affair without any finesse, which has the potential to expose more bigger fishes. In a way I pity OTK, but at the same time I don’t have any sympathy for his predicament.
Tiong’s exposure of RM10m is likely appearing as tips of the iceberg? Would he care to tell more of such good deeds?
pw: rorists snivels
What a government it is Barisan-Umnoputra !
How can the people still vote in this type of Party?
PR will be useless if it cannot dislodge Umno-BN from Putra Jaya come 2012.
If Tiong King Sing had donated RM100m instead of only RM10m, the whole case would have gone underground. Of course the receiver is cheesed off when they discover just from the preliminary report alone that there could be as much as RM1b being siphoned off. And you only share RM10m?
10 million is nothing compared to 4 billion PKFZ scandal.
TKS is merely dropping an early warning hint to OTK.
This 10 million is just but the tip of the iceberg. Imagine how much more shit out there that we don’t yet know off.
The road to Putra Jaya is not difficult.
DAP should do the following:
1. Be more active in areas where Umnoputras were elected in the last election, especially in Johore. Help reasonable Pas candidates or PKR candidates to win the support of the people who are wary of Pas.
2. Consolidate the hold in the present seats gained last year with mass activity.
3. All government policies in Penang and Selangor must be focused on benefitting the people, never mind even if it is costly economically such that a deficit is incurred. The money can be earned later on. The objective is to eject Umno-BN in 4 years time.
DAP must not forget to spread its message among the rural people who are not exposed to the English language.
The rural areas are the places where the battles will be fought.
DAP will do well if they do not lose sight of organising more political activities in the constituecies where Umnoputra were elected on the west coasts of peninsular.
No. Actually the real battle for Putrajaya is in East Malaysia. Without East Malaysia you get nothing.
That was the basic foundation required when our country of Malaysia was formed between 3 EQUAL partners Malaya, Sabah and Sarawak. (it was 4 if we count Singapore)
So, no East Malaysia, no Putrajaya.
too bad OTK, TKS & FA are not in the Pakatan. it will be front page propaganda on all MSM all the way for 1-2 weeks. the AG, MACC & PDRM will just have their nasi lemak & teh tarik as usual on this. nobody will spring to action like that for RM 2400 for purchase of flags compared to RM 10M. RM 2400 was too little for ‘everyone’ to share. RM 10M is a different story. If TKS can fork out RM 10M, that means he has got more in his pockets. RM 10M out of the RM 500M irregularities is a pinch of salt. Forget the RM 10M, find out what happened to the rest RM 490M !!! or unknown Billions. Plus, all this can’t just happen under the nose of UMNO-MIC-GERAKAN-PPP-etc. The amount is too big to escape their sensitive noses.
I doubt they dare to handle this case. They are only good in bullying the opposition.
Giving RM 10 million to MCA without receipt, like giving away a few dollar notes, Money must have been easy to come by for Tiong. Even then one does not just throw money away. MCA cannot do a Sarawak BN party any favour, certainly not a government position. If Tiong can just give away RM 10 million to MCA, he must have given many times that amount to UMNO. If he was in the habit of giving RM in million without receipt, then MIC and all those little BN component parties could also be benefiting from his handouts. Tiong was known to have organized a group tour to Taiwan in August 2008. Did he also hand out RM millions to members of his tour group?
If Tiong did not bother to keep a receipt, he might not even be bothered to draw cash from the bank; so he must have been keeping cash in suitcases. Giving RM 10 million in three occasions works out to be RM 3.33 million each time. The largest currency note here is RM 100, so he has handed over 33,000 sheets of RM 100 notes each time. They can be packed into 5,500 sheets of A4 size, or two feet in thickness. The bulky transfer would involve more than two persons.
If MACC is responsible to wipe out commercial crime, then it is its duty to ensure that shareholders to Tiong’s listed companies are not taken for a ride. If money politics is a crime, would private jet politics not a crime too?
MACC…. now Daniel Li of Hong Kong’s ICAC has syit all over his face. What a stupid man he is, or is he really that stupid? MACC was modelled after ICAC. So what? Try giving a Mercedes to a monkey to drive and see what happens next.
A police dog is a dog that is trained specifically to assist police and similar law-enforcement personnel with their work. Similarly, MACC was set up specifically to assist UMNO with their power play… an UMNO arm, similar to UMNO Youth and Wanita UMNO. Without UMNO’s nod of the head, they are trained not to act.
RM 10 million? So little? Is that all the MCA President is reportedly given? He must be worth not very much.
There is an unconfirmed rumour that a State Assemblyman in Perak was “donated” with RM 25 million to act and behave like a frog. If this is true, then an ordinary SA has more value than a President of a major political party. Ong might have been short changed.
If RM10 million was indeed “donated”, then we must find out whether the donation came with conditions attached or not, you know, the lawyers call it “consideration”, or what the recipient must do to return the favour.
Did other MCA Presidents, Ministers and officials, past and present, receive “donations” as well? And if so, did they do anything to reward the donor?
RM 10 million was reportedly “donated” in CASH. That will be in 100,000 RM 100 notes, thank you. That will require quite a lot of suitcases and I wonder where these suitcases are now. Ong, IF he did receive the money, would have had a hard time using up all the cash. He wouldn’t bank it into his local bank account, I am sure.
RM 100 million was withdrawn in CASH from a bank. This would have raised the eyebrows of the bank officers. Was there a “suspicious transaction” alert raised at the bank? Has there been money laundering in contravention of the relevant Acts and BAFIA? Would Bank Negara like to check? And from which account did Tiong withdraw the RM 100 million from and how was this accounted for?
And if MCA was the recipient, is MCA now a subsidiary of SPDP or Kuala Dimensi?
Questions, questions, questions, requiring answers.
Wow. Yet another Pandora Box has been opened. What will we find in there?
Sorry. RM 10 million. Now all of Ong’s supporters might want their share. Poor Ong.
I believe that if this episode is not contained expeditiously, the stink will spread to UMNO sooner than later. I don’t believe that it is the MCA which is eating the entire PKFZ cake alone without raising the ire and jealousy of UMNO. The ease in which billions were approved and thrown into the pit by institutions controlled by UMNO suggests that many hands were involved. And the amount is not piddling but mind-boggling. – vsp
Not only the amount is mind-boggling. Is Najib in control? I don’t think so. The damage has been done.
East Malaysian politics has now reached the Semenanjung.
Nothing… you won’t find anything in that Pandora Box but you will find a corpse outside it. The guy who tries to open the pandora box will be found lying on the road in front of some high rise building. Remember the BBMB Scandal? Can anyone remember the name of that accountant who was sent to Hong Kong to do an audit. He left a posting in his diary saying that he would be murdered soon but he was prepared to die for his race, his country and whatever. Was his name Ibrahim Aziz or something?
Its owned by WijayaBaru Aviation, a subsidiary, a Sdn Bhd so nothing to do with KLSE or SC. :)
For the BMF case, I think the poor guy was Jalil Ibrahim.
Looks like Malaysia indeed has a track record of cleaning up the scene and we can see that in the Altantuuya case and also in Teoh’s case
YB
With BN politicians you must be very careful what you ask and note clearly what they say.
Rememeber when Nazri denied in Parliament he approved 15,000 licences and then later said that it was 12,00+ and that his denial was not dishonest since it was ot 15,000?
Well, Ong Gua Ta Kut is probably playing the same semantics game when he says he did not receive a ‘personal loan’. There was no personal loan; it was a straight donation to MCA that was not recorded in their accounts books and disbursed for whatever needs.
So, ask the right questions.
dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race.
Perhaps some ‘generous’ people could have ‘donated’ and sponsored last year’s Taiwan Educational Trip too……to foil that ‘SEPTEMBER 16TH PLAN’…
wondering how much?
He said YES, and I say NO, then go and cut a cock’s head in front of Tua Pek Kong, and swear that you did not received any money.
Hi Angus, thank you for your answer. At least you remembered and therefore, Jalil did not die in vain… well, not totally.
According to the book, “The Riddle of Malaysian Capitalism: Rent-seekers or Real Capitalist?”, by Peter Searle, “The full details of the scandal have never been revealed and probably never will. The government was initially very evasive about BMF but under pressure, revealed that senior officials in Bank Bumiputra and its subsidiary in Hong Kong gave massive loans to Carrian in exchange for special consultancy fees, gifts, loans and other forms of grafts… While many details surrounding the BMF affair remain obscure, findings by a Commitee of Inquiry indicated that there was more to the links between BMF officials, George Tan, and top UMNO leaders including Dr Mahathir, Tengku Razaleigh and Musa Hitam than was previously thought….” Errrrr, Tengku Razeleigh also?
Tua Pek Kong?
Nah. King Singh prays to Mammon.
It’s always showtime for us East Malaysian,hence this RM10 million corporate’s donation to MCA is just peanut to us.I invite any of you guys in this blog to come to Sabah,then you would know why I said it ,nothing new to us,most of us are fedup already of the montonous shows. I wish you S.Malaysian guys a happy and good watching showtime .Don’t you guys realize that the PDRM and the MACC are pretty fast to act ,even at the slightest tip of corruption against the opposition but when it comes to act corruption charges against the Umno/Bn they reluctantly move initially and lose complete stream in a matter of hours and days.The public perception of the PDRM and the MACC is that they are paid only to go after the opposition.Don’t they realised that it’s the public which pays them including most members of the opposition.
guess Umno/Bn pay them much much extras.
Nazri statement that the charges are personal should tell people that things are pretty bad when they start giving excuses that are pretty lame.
Yesterday Tiong said RM10 million Donation, OTK denied, threatening to sue but today (MCA) The Star’s report reports RM10 million “loan”!
What is this lah – why would Tiong give a RM10 million loan in cash and without loan documentation – who would believe that? ? ?
Deputy CEO of Tiong’s KDSB (Faizal) alleges, “My sources tell me that there are many problems in MCA and that Ong has to show some results (from the PKFZ investigation). I think we have been made scapegoats” as reported by The Malaysia Insider’s Lee Wei Lian, Aug 13th.
Tiong’s disclosure was probably an act of retaliation from his perception that he & KDSB are made ‘scapegoats’ by PKFZ special task force headed by MCA Lee Hwa Beng. His argument, “I am benefactor, gave donation to MCA, and MCA made KDSB (associated with me) scapegoat when KDSB has only a proportionately ‘small/marginal’ role to play in the burgeoning RM12.5 billion PKFZ’s scandal?
Joke is MCA too takes a position that though 2 of its ex transport ministers issued “letters of support”, its role, if at all implicated in the scandal was also “marginal”…..so why should they be also ‘scapegoats’ ???
[KDSB is afterall a commercial entity, could take the heat better, an argument that deliberately forgets its also associated with a political figure.]
The whole situation is truly pathetic in this ‘restricted’ sense: it is speculated that there might well be other powerful personalities with the strongest political leverage who are involved (in sense of disproportionately benefiting more) in this RM12.5 billion PKFZ’s scandal.
When scandal exploded, fall out is however on either OTK/MCA or Tiong/ KDSB to be scapegoats, and hence two ‘leaders’ of Chinese community fighting each other – with the third one LKS’s plodding and poking at RM12.5 billion PKFZ’s scandal for public accountability between that two parties!
What lessons are there to be drawn?
In our milieu of patronage politics – and murky connection between business/money and politics – although all have a part in the spoils, the distribution of largesse as well as risks are not proportionate or equal.
I postulate the party who works most, benefits proportionately less, often assumes proportionately greater if not all risks of being “scapegoat”, if scandal erupts public.
Ironically, the party that benefits most is probably the one never mentioned/disclosed/ implicated, its the one holding real power to protect itself as well as others, to arbiter or assign blame, and at the same time, to absolve the one implicated at first instance by it to take the fall for all.
More than ever the motto prevails – “All for one and One for all” though here is small problem of – Who shall be the one?
Politicians must think thrice before accepting bribes. If their relations with the bribe giver turn sour, that could mean the end of their political careers.
Taking private jets and happen the relation can be linked to business approved. That was very interesting.
KDSB was off course too happy to oblige to offer the jets whether the charges agreed or otherwise. This logical because KDSB will look at this as an Guan Xi “goodwill” for doing business. But unfortunately this time around they are investing into a bad Guan Xi, this happen this guy do buy it and now he use his minister power to harp on the issues who KDSB hope will go silent after so hu ha but not this case. So police report lodged against each other.
Please take this as a soap opera and in this world nothing strange in this business world tainted with highly corrupted fellows out to get quick financial gain.
Say it again, PKFZ is the most toxic and morally evil project ever conceptualized to reward the MCA and other Chinese politician for their past 50 years loyalty to the U Master and keep them in power. Now the master rotten head has retired as Tun enjoying his life sipping whiskey happily leaving yous guys to slot it out. Good luck to OTK, being prepared to resign in fullfill your pledged to male no stone unturned on this PKFZ.
Ok. We all know we are looking at both guilty party tearing each other apart. The issue is how to get the most mileage from this..
While OKT guilty seem to be some RM10mil plus change because of the flights and likely some other stuff, its more important to go after him because if he is taken down or push hard enough, it will hit Najib harder..
But the problem is, its not likely just going after OKT is going to pry much loose. KDSB obviously has more dirt to give – push that button and more dirt will come out about the two former transport minister who will go to Najib to make demands and they have real clout as opposed to OKT..
So we should harp on both BUT the big button to push is on KDSB and Tiong..
In the Bible, “the lord giveth and the lord taketh away..”
But in bolehland, “Tiong giveth and Ong taketh away..”
MACC?
They have their own struggle to overcome in the TBH death inquest.
We really cannot expect too much unless there is a major shakeup of both the PDRM and MACC.
Something to reflect on as we approach another frenzy of flag-flying prior to HK.
http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2009/08/malaysiakini-expects-too-much-from-macc.html
Is this what Najib means by “1Malaysia”? East Malaysians helping West Malaysians and vice versa?
Is Ong Tee Keat, the MCA president, so stupid to get himself entangled in this “compromising” position, a position where undue pressure could be applied to him, where he becomes vulnerable and open to manipulation? Is MCA now in a compromising position so lacking in integrity and governance?
Of what benefit is it to Tiong who finds it necessary and beneficial to make a “donation”? If it is a “loan”, when is Ong obliged to make repayments and on what terms? Does Ong have the resources and means to repay based on his fixed monthly income?
As fast as the lid on PKFZ has come off, BN will do its best to put the lid back on again – this time even tighter than before. They cannot afford any public disclosure that UMNO was also involved, and what other payments were made before, during and after the March 2008 elections.
What was Azim, UMNO’s then Treasurer, doing as Chairman of one of Tiong’s companies ? What was Rahman Palil, UMNO Selangor’s Exco member, doing as a direct beneficiary of the initial land purchase ?
UMNO has a big role to play in this scandal, and for the time being, it is being confined to some sandiwara between 2 Chinese parties.
Satu lagi projek Barisan Nasional.
//UMNO has a big role to play in this scandal, and for the time being, it is being confined to some sandiwara between 2 Chinese parties.//
Compare this to the Americans in Iraq, watching the sandiwara between the Shiites and the Sunnis as they bomb each other to piecesnecrosis F1
Did any one see the Zhao Ming Fu video tape where he was mercilessly and brutally killed while under police custody ?
PKFZ is the most evil project ever conceptualized to reward the politician who has faithfully served its master over the past 50 years.
It was up to OTK to undone the wrongs if he wish. It is also up to him to do the rights things but the obstacles are enormous. He should prepared to resign when circumstances warrant him to do so.
They are many many accuses here and there. but as the motive was evil in the beginning and therefore many will accused each other to make a smoke screen.
Let hope those responsible, but again I believe they are too many of them. Then who should go to fail if any?
In politic, more so in Malaysia. There is no true and true is no false. When on good happy term good ally then all are true when relationship go sour then all are false.
RM10 million donation/bribe/guan xi fee/facilitation fee/ silence fee or what ever you want to name it they are all the same. words are limited in expression, as Buddhist believe the highest understanding should be convey not by words but action.
The giver and the taker relationship tell all.
The giver willing to give regardless what the motive but the circumstances tell all and need no further explanation as any further explanation words will only confused so it is clear of the intention of the giver.
the taker? well people give just take as simple as that?
so what the fuss now? Simply the expectation of the giver was not met and now he think he has wasted all this RM10 million more so it can get any tax deduction as legitimate business expenses. Instead, the giver take the approach die die together. Since i can not get what I want out of this RM10 million, i also will not leave have it with peace.
As the project is evil so those parties can’t be saint? they are most then evil. and eternal hell shall wait for their return after this worldly life.
“It’s (the private jet’s) owned by WijayaBaru Aviation, a subsidiary, a Sdn Bhd so nothing to do with KLSE or SC.” (Speakup)
It seems that Malaysia is full of many novice retail investors in stock exchange market like Speakup who knows nothing much about accounting but he pretends to know a lot about how the company financial accounts are being arrived at. That will cause big problem to the healthiness of our equity market. This is because the novice retail investors will tend to push up the stock price of an individual stock irrationally based on unfounded over-optimistic guess. An overpriced price of a Bursar Malaysia quoted company will enable the company’s substantial shareholders to borrow money from the commercial bank by pledging the company shares as the collateral, and hence create a high gearing factor (and high operating risk) in the money market.
Anyone who have strong knowledge about accounting will know that the profit or loss of a subsidiary company will be consolidated into the financial accounts of the parent company. If Wijaya Baru Aviation Sdn Bhd is the subsidiary company of Wijaya Baru Global Berhad, then the mismanagement of the subsidiary, such as giving away free chartered flight services without recovering the fuel costs from the clients or forgetting to do billing after providing chartered flight services, will surely badly affect the financial performance of the parent company.
Dato Tiong has to answer to the stock market investors on whether Wijaya Baru Global Berhad will be badly affected by his alleged RM10 million donation to Dato Sri Ong Tee Keat!
Oh dear, Sheriff Singh…. you really see him no up! You don’t give him credit for his resourcefulness to find the means to fulfill his obligations outside of his monthly income. And if I am not wrong, he can even forgo his monthly income which is chickenfeed compared to what he can lay his hands on.
Onlooker … go call SC or Bursa and ask about subsidiaries and also questions such as impacting the income of the holding company before you are so so fast to shoot things down. Ask before you say la … tried calling SC enforcement yet?
RM1 is also a loss if we follow your argument.
“RM1 is also a loss if we follow your argument.” (Speakup)
Speakup, you again expose your ignorance about accounting here. Please go check with MIA or MACPA on whether they should consider RM1 as material financial figure or immaterial financial figure for accountability purpose.
And now we don’t talk about only RM1. We indeed talk about USD40,000 default payment by Ministry of Transport for accounts payable due to Wijaya Baru Aviation Sdn Bhd, a subsidiary of Wijaya Baru Global Berhad. We also talk about the allegation of RM10 million either loan or donation (which was correct even Dato Tiong himself was not very sure) to Dato Sri Ong Tee Keat.
SC will intervene only when a company is already at the verge of being declared bankrupt by a high court. What can we expect SC to do much about the financial mismanagement or financial fraud of a Bursar Malaysia quoted company when SC is only a financial watch dog of Barisan Nasional which has no true power unless being given the consent by the BN Top Leaders. Please don’t forget that Wijaya Baru Global Berhad is a BN-linked business corporation, which may have to serve its political boss without taking into the consideration of the interest of the minority shareholders or the retail stock investors!
Onlooker I am lost now with your posting, not insulting you but kinda lost, I am blur. Firstly, I may be mistaken to use the word subsidiary, WB Aviation might be a mere associate company or even owned by that magnanimous man privately.
USD40K is a debt that needs investigation by the regulatory bodies such as the SC or Bursa? Well, try to figure out what happens to money spent on RM10K dinners by some listed companies? Does SC/Bursa look into that if its revealed to them?
As for the RM10M, there is nothing there that says it was from the listed company so I guess that is a personal thing.
Also, what amounts to financial mismanagement? Using a plane for ‘free’ is financial fraud? I am kinda blur about such terms that you are throwing out.
So since you say SC is BN controlled so what is the issue now? Should they investigate or not? So what is the point you are getting at now?
“Using a plane for ‘free’ is financial fraud? I am kinda blur about such terms that you are throwing out.” (Speakup)
Yes, Speakup, providing free services from the resources of a limited company to an outsider without requiring him to pay monetary compensation is a financial fraud in its strictest sense. Don’t forget that the limited company’s liability to its creditors is limited to the amount of paid up capital only. The company directors will be held responsible for creating some inappropriate usage of the company’s resources which may impair the financial position of the limited company. What is the reason that Dato Tiong wanted to provide free chartered flight services to Dato Sri Ong if it is not for the purpose of bribery?
I did not start the issue about SC here. I myself will never trust a financial watch dog like SC to provide guarantee for a good corporate governance in a Bursar Malaysia quoted company. It is always my personal viewpoint that the retail investors in the Stock Exchange Market have to exercise due care when they buy shares and they should try to avoid buying junk shares as much as possible. For their irrational buying decision in stock exchange market will sometimes cause misappropriation of credit lines in money market and hence facilitate stealing of the public funds through unprudent bank borrowings being given to a BIG TIPU businessman by a government-link commercial bank!
//Dato Tiong has to answer to the stock market investors on whether Wijaya Baru Global Berhad will be badly affected by his alleged RM10 million donation to Dato Sri Ong Tee Keat!// -#19 by Onlooker Politics on August 14th, 2009 13:06
Dear Onlooker politics, was it ever reported that Dato Tiong raised RM10 million from Wijaya Baru Global Berhad or any of its affioliates or related companies?
As far as I recollect it was not reported he raised it from any source. As far as I know even listed companies have off balance sheet slush funds, some even in offshore. Would that be reflected in any account, whether listed vehicle or subsidiaries? I think not.
Only the mega nincompoop and his sidekicks would think that this case is about MCA and Tiong. I wonder why are they so pathetic to be taken from one “Holland” to another. Only nincompoops would not know this is just a show to truncate the people’s frustration. I am willing to wager with this mega nincompoop and all his sidekicks that nothing is going to happen so long as the rascals are still in power. Any taker?
“As far as I know even listed companies have off balance sheet slush funds, some even in offshore. Would that be reflected in any account, whether listed vehicle or subsidiaries? I think not.” (Jeffrey)
Jeffrey’s comment here really makes the severeness of the embezzlement problems in stock exchange market quoted companies sound very scary.
PDRM has already established a division called the Commercial Crime Department since about 1998-1999. What is the Commercial Crime Department of the Police Force doing so far to tackle the fund embezzlement problems believed to be in existence with the stock exchange market quoted companies?
We already got the money laundering act. Why the Police cannot investigate anything about this crime?
“Only nincompoops would not know this is just a show to truncate the people’s frustration.” (limkamput)
It is not only a show! It is also a mild threat being unleashed by Dato Tiong to warn Dato Sri Ong to have better kept his big mouth shut. Otherwise, Both of them will die together! It will not result in any punishment to both Tiong and Ong! MACC will close its eyes. Police will close its eyes. SC will close its eyes. Najib will close its eyes. Only Muhyiddin Yassin will try to be a mediator to call for a cease fire between Tiong and Ong in order to gain Muhyiddin a big publicity.
Muhyiddin has to struggle very hard in order to keep his influence within Umno. Otherwise, Hishamuddin Hussein will take over him very soon!
Onlooker … I think you are losing the plot. You are using nice terms but are they based on any law or precedent?
DS Tiong can donate all he wants, at the end of the day you cannot prove that this is connected to any wrong doing. Its really hard to prove really.
There is no real crime at the moment:
i. Donating to a political party is not a crime; and
ii. Giving rides that are yet unpaid is not a crime.
Remember, DS Tiong says it was a donation not BRIBE like how it was stated in the Steven’s Corner case with the local majlis.
Then it is said OTK has not paid for the rides … was not said that OTK was given free rides as a favour.
DS Tiong is not dumb la … he will not implicate himself. Some people are already reading into this as 100% corruption. He wants to flex some muscles to OTK that more can be revealed.
The intention of the RM10M is to put OTK in a very hard place, did he hand all RM10M to MCA? Free rides are to show that you better cough up the money you owe me, hence financially it will hurt OTK and even OTK’s job since when do our ministers need to take rides on private jets when working.
So tell me, on the face of what has been written in the press, what laws have been broken? None …
“…embezzlement problems in stock exchange market quoted companies sound very scary…” – Onlooker Politics.
However is it embezzlement? Embezzling whose money? You know especially in the good old days of housing boom in the 1980s, we hear of these developers (even listed ones) given under counter monies by purchasers of their houses. So they had of balance sheet slush funds, which they used during festive seasons to buy hampers, give cash ang pows to land office or other regulatory people to maintain “goodwill” when they submit for eg their building plans and other applications for approval etc.
Of course it is techically corruption but this has been going on in this country for decades. It is however arguably not embezzlement. Embezzling from who?
“i. Donating to a political party is not a crime” (Speakup)
Did Dato Tiong withhold a certain amount of the donation money as the money withheld for paying income tax on behalf of Dato Sri Ong? If not, then the donation is a crime, unless Dato Tiong has a tax exemption license in his hand!
Jeff … that was donation and since developer did not use it then its not wrong la … hahahaaha … temporary safe keeping.
“It is however arguably not embezzlement. Embezzling from who?” (Jeffrey)
OK. OK. Jeffrey, Dato Tiong may be innocent in having his RM10 million been given away to someone who does not make use of it but just unknowingly leave it on the chair of a 5-star hotel in China. “Both Tiong and Ong are innocent.” Is that what you are trying to say?
I am convinced now that there is no case here. Case dismissed! Let’s pay attention to PKFZ scandal again!
However, I do hope that Pakatan Rakyat leaders please don’t learn this dirty tricks from Tiong and Ong!
Muhyiddin and Hishamuddin… both Dins are equally disastrous for the future of Malaysia. Anyone else in UMNO that can save Malaysia from impending doom?
ekompute … none la … those that can are not handing out enough money or contracts or APs or taxi permits etc. :)
RM10 million donation?
If still friend, RM10 million is a gift
If the friendship turns sour, the RM10 million would be automatically turn into loan..
If Ong keep quiet about PKFZ, he would continue to enjoy free flights….. but now the position has changed…… no more free flights…
Wondering who ‘donated’ to the 4 Perak’s political frogs?
Will MCAC investigate and prosecute those(BN & cronies) who are immune to corruption charges?
We can refer to the history……
I was reading the Star Online article, “MACC nabs Ronnie Liu’s assistant after scuffle (Update)” at http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/8/14/nation/20090814140044&sec=nation
and was thinking: Oh dear, MACC is obviously acting like UMNO’s law-enforcement division. Lest it be mistaken that I am saying that MACC should not investigate DAP-run constituencies… no, I am not saying that. Everyone knows that corruption is so rife in Malaysia that the word UMNO has become synonymous with corruption. That MACC is only targeting DAP constituencies speaks volumes of the injustice that continues to eat into Malaysian society.
Hahaha… another censorship. I was wondering why my post disappeared into thin air the first time until I rewrote a second time. Writing anything about DAP (in this case about Ronnie Liu) is a no-no… should I write my post in chedet.co.cc then?
I always have the highest respect for DAP and in particular, LKS. But when my posts get censored for no apparent reason other than that it touches on DAP that may not be very favorable, I begin to think… whoever comes into power, be it UMNO or DAP… no difference.
Write to 1Malaysia.com. It is better than chedet.co.cc for two reasons. The person reading it, if he ever reads it has the power to act. Too many in chedet.co.cc are lining up to join tdm to hell or heaven.
ekompute … are you using any bad language or swearing like a drunken sailor? Heheehehehee …
///”Only the mega nincompoop and his sidekicks would think that this case is about MCA and Tiong….. Only nincompoops would not know this is just a show to truncate the people’s frustration. I am willing to wager with this mega nincompoop and all his sidekicks that nothing is going to happen so long as the rascals are still in power. Any taker?”///- (limkamput)#26 on August 14th, 2009 16:19 above
So Tiong publicizing Ong took a donation of RM10 million, Ong threatening to sue Tiong for it and Muhyiddin’s telling both of them to stop “washing dirty linen in public” as it would affect adversely the “image of the government and the Barisan Nasional” are all “a show” to “truncate” (meaning terminating abruptly or shorten by cutting off, as in felling a tree ) “the people’s frustration”???
Now thats a man who just experienced a brain wave and gotten what he thought a ‘brilliant’ idea (for sharing here) just because whilst standing sideways with his ears against the wind, he heard his head whistling loudly!
To follow up on this quaint use of the word “truncate”, all I can say is that if brains were trees, his would be a “truncated” stump!
So far no one takes the “wager” for most I suspect are quite decent and fair in not taking on a bet with an mentally unarmed opponent!
Hi SpeakUp, no, I was not… if I were, I can expect it. I think it was the link to TheStarOnline article about Ronnie Liu… Let me cut out the link and see if it gets censored. The post which I have saved reads:
I was reading the Star Online article, “MACC nabs Ronnie Liu’s assistant after scuffle (Update)” at XXXXXXX and was thinking: Oh dear, MACC is obviously acting like UMNO’s law-enforcement division. Lest it be mistaken that I am saying that MACC should not investigate DAP-run constituencies… no, I am not saying that. Everyone knows that corruption is so rife in Malaysia that the word UMNO has become synonymous with corruption. That MACC is only targeting DAP constituencies speaks of the injustice that continues to eat into Malaysian society.
Oh indeed it was the link. What’s wrong with the link from TheStarOnline, I wonder.
I just tested the link again and again the post disappeared in thin air.