Malaysians today are entitled to ask the MCA President/Transport Minister, Datuk Seri Ong Tee Keat and the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC) – What games are you playing with regard to the RM12 billion Port Klang Free Zone (PKFZ) “can of worms”?
In the latest twist to an unprecedented long catalogue of twists, Ong now says that the question of whether the PricewaterhouseCooper (PwC) report on the PKFZ scandal will be made public rests with the cabinet.
This is most unbelievable! Wasn’t it Ong himself who issued a categorical, even commanding, instruction to the Port Klang Authority (PKA) on April 29 to release the PwC audit report on the PKFZ to the public “within seven days”?
Why one excuse after another since then to justify why the PwC report on the PKFZ has not yet seen the light of day, until the whole responsibility is thrown back to the Cabinet – when Malaysians had been told that the Cabinet had given Ong the greenlight to release the PwC report, which was the reason for Ong’s command on April 29 to the PKA to make public the PwC report within seven days?
There should be no need to remind Ong of the various past pledges he had made in the past 15 months to “tell all” about the PKFZ scandal, and that “paper cannot wrap embers” especially as the PKFZ scandal has become so infested to become an even bigger “can of worms”, snowballing from a RM1.8 billion scandal in 2002 under Datuk Seri Dr. Ling Liong Sik as Transport Minister, more than doubling to RM4.6 billion under Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy as Transport Minister and now mushrooming into the astronomical figure of a RM12 billion scandal under Ong’s watch as Transport Minister.
In now saying that the Cabinet has to decide whether to make public the PwC audit report on the PKFZ scandal, is Ong admitting that his powers as Transport Minister has been clipped and his earlier decision for the report to be made public had been overruled by mysterious but powerful forces?
Why is Ong knuckling down to the pressures of those who do not want the PwC Report on the PKFZ scandal to be made public, by agreeing to revert back the issue to the Cabinet, when the Cabinet had earlier given him the “greenlight” to make public the PwC report?
Shouldn’t Ong take a stand that it is now for the Transport Minister to decide on whether the PwC report on the PKFZ to be made public, and not to pass the buck back to Cabinet?
This is the clear stand Malaysians want from Ong, to be stated boldly in his blog, instead of mumbling about the Najib slogan, “People First, Performance Now” which has achieved remarkable record of a new Prime Ministerial slogan discredited in the shortest period – in fact in less than seven days of its announcement!
The Star today carried the front-page headline report “MACC moves in – Commission starts probe into PKFZ project” on a team from the Putrajaya MACC starting to interview those involved in the project.
It reported:
It is learnt that a team from the Putrajaya MACC has been investigating and inquiring from those in the know about the project.
Sources familiar with the investigation said the MACC is expected to intensify its probe once it has obtained a copy of the report by accounting firm Pricewaterhouse-Coopers Advisory Services Sdn Bhd (PwC).
They said the MACC would study the report and see if there were new elements which the commission could follow up on.
The MACC is also expected to contact several people in the Port Klang Authority (PKA) as part of its investigations.
MACC director of investigations Datuk Mohd Shukri Abdull confirmed investigations were in progress but declined to elaborate.
What game is the MACC playing, in giving the impression that it has suddenly sprung into action, waiting to investigate into the PKFZ scandal when the PwC report is made public?
Four reports, whether to the police or the Anti-Corruption Agency, had been made by Selangor Executive Councillor, Ronnie Liu when he was head of DAP NGO Bureau in the 18 months from December 2004 on the PKFZ scandal and there is no reason why the ACA or its present successor the MACC could not lay its hands on all the relevant information and documentation on the PKFZ scandal if it had been thorough, competent and professional in its investigations.
It is most ridiculous for the MACC to strike the stance as is it is an innocent who is getting information about the PKFZ scandal for the first time, and is awaiting the PwC report to get more information for necessary follow-up action.
There should be a full investigation into why the ACA had failed to uncover any improprieties or crimes in the PKFZ scandal despite Ronnie Liu making four ACA or police reports since December 2004 – a ACA “cover-up” which should regarded as heinous as the PKFZ scandal!
Ong got short memory syndrome that he cannot remember what he said a short while ago and so contradicts himself?
He now hides in the forest that is the Cabinet so people will not blame him, the individual tree. Clever camouflage trick learnt from the chameleons.
But the issue is – at what rate is this RM 12 billion shortfall expanding on a daily basis? At a conservative 5% p.a. it will be RM 1.65 MILLION PER DAY.
That’s 40 low cost houses PER DAY. Maybe 100 full scholarships. 3 schools, 5 rural clinics, 250,000 free meals for the poor etc etc. All on a PER DAY BASIS.
Are you not angry? Hello, Ong Tee Keat? Hello, Cabinet?
Hi Kit, the can of worm just open up and they only realized certain worm was not to be seen by the public. That may be the reason they are twisted their tongue now. As we all know the history when ever thing go to cabinet those with interest will most like shot it down and issue closed?
What games are you playing with regard to the RM12 billion PKFZ “can of worms”?
Answer: The game of “I want to be a billionaire”, played by Ferninand Marcos.
The next announcement will be:
The cabinet meeting has decided that, the PKFZ is now under MACC investigation, while the investigation is underway and not to jeopardizes MACC’s investigations the cabinet has decided that the PWC report not to be made public at this moment.
–Thank you,
Ung Kee Cheh
Ong TK playing merry-go-round with the Rakyat.
To PM,
How do you expect the Rakyat to trust BN when you have such a minister playing fool with the Rakyat? Also what a huge financial fiasco is this PKFZ? MACC / ACA must be sleeping even in a long drunken state. This huge financial losses just don’t happen over one night. Please sack the minister and MACC chief to regain some sense of accountability.
Why bother to pay taxes?
Our hard-earned “blood and sweat” money is evaporating faster than Bala and family.
Why pay taxes at all?
Hi Kit, pls take good care of your safety!
Digging too deep might make you a serious target of assassination by the scumbags and hyenas!
I suggest you put on bullet-proof vest, wear helmet and hire a Gurkha boduguard whenever you are on the road!
mendela not only good citizen he also pay tax at the highest rate so for his sdn bhd.
paying tax is our duty and not pain and no sweat but knowing these bunch of suckers has suck away the money was most painful.
The 200,000 mca members must be made to pay back the RM 12 billion PKFZ scam because they are the ones who voted these scoundrels to office. Without these mca members, there would never had been a mca and hence no scam. Anyway it is not much, merely RM12 billion divided by 200,000 members, i.e. RM60,000 each. And if they don’t have that much, they can always turn to the ah longs.
The game they are playing is foosball, Malaysian style. They keep reducing the size of their goal, but still they score own goals. They have the MACC, the AG’s Chambers, the PDRM all trying to help them win, but they still can’t win. UMNO has taken the rakyat’s money and placed the money on a bet on the BN team winning – so there can only be one outcome.
I’ll bet the PwC report is just going to be a whitewash. it’ll recommend how controls can be tightened but it won’t say anything about criminal wrongdoing.
It is unbecoming of OTK time and again to make false promises to Malaysians that he would make public the PricewaterhouseCooper (PwC) report.
OTK risks losing his credibility as President of MCA if he continues to deceive the public.
Apparently OTK is worried that if the PricewaterhouseCooper (PwC) report is made public, it will have a disastrous impact on the Penanti by-election – should UMNO changes its mind to contest in the by-election at the last minute.
The MACC’s role now is to move in and pretend to “investigate” with the intent of clearing all those involved of wrong doing. Nothing more than a whitewashing operation.
OTK how about wearing this, “MR SPIN” for a start as a new graduate from UMNO’S Untruth Speaker Instutition.
Try not to overwork and demonstrate your ability further, giving more untruth excuses… UMNO will promote you with a new title, Master of all liars!
On 29 April 2009, King Ta Kut passed the baton to Lee Hwa Beng to release the PKFZ audit report. Now, Lee Hwa Beng passes the baton to the Cabinet. Yes, this is very unbelievable. I think we better watch more cartoon shows of Tom and Jerry than wasting our breathes for the report.
According to Lee Hwa Beng, MACC had started investigation before 1 April 2008. MACC, it is more than one year already. Maybe MACC does not understand the 2 MACC systems. Look see, look see, look see.
The executive chairman of PKA has resigned and he has no power in deciding over the matter of PKA, including the release of the PwC report. In the interest of everyone, since MACC has taken over the investigation, it will be more appropriate that the PwC report serves as a secondary report for the reference of MACC investigation work. Should Datuk Ong Tee Keat rush to decide on the release of the report without prior approval from UMNO, he would be answerable to UMNO for any consequences that is unfavorable to the BN. The Cabinet should study the report carefully first and make a decision whether it is in the interest of the people on the release of the report. The Cabinet also has the right not to release it if it involves many sensitive issues.
OTK stands for Ong Tin Kosong. Kong kong kong making a lot of noise as if whole world own MCA a living.
Talk Big but action like fat turtle.
OTK soon going to be listed as satu lagi MCA leaders in the Malaysia Black Book of Corruption.
Store it on your hard disk, portable disk, thumb drive, cds and bring it out again when time comes. Make sure next generation and generations to come know who are the robbers and thiefs.
Shame on you ONG TEE KIET! Another MCA loss cannon.
There is some ball who argue for the pro of non releasing of PWC report. The rule of game is very simple in deed. PWC report can not be made public as it was too sensitive? yes it was to sensitive as it involved national security? When it was release the world not only Malaysian will not be able to stand the stink of the can of worms. Right.
So MACC was call in to play it role? What role? Wait for the announcement after the cabinet meeting.
WC report can not be made public as it was too sensitive but more sensitive is the fact that RM 12 billion of the taxpayers’ money has been pocketed by thieves in the govt. If one can be jailed for stealing a loaf of bread, why can’t these RM 12 billion thieves be jailed too?
Kasim Amat worries that the release of PwC report could involve sensitive issues.
What sensitive issue?This report for sure will not cap the smell that stinks up to high heavens benefiting largely some UMNOPUTRAS aided by MCA lapdogs.It’s big time robbing Kasim Amat by UMNOPUTRAS with impunity,that’s what it is!
From day one this structured product has been design as a legitimate PONSI PRODUCT. with the clear intention to siphon out the large sum of money on the pretext of development.
It was common for all project that certain condition was attached to make it in such a way that the government has to pay the contractor for large sum of money.
In this particular product the land was sold a RM23 per sq ft on the pretext that infra works has to be done on the land etc. This was just to legitimate and justify the asking price of RM23 PER SQ FT, while the land was offer to the first crony at RM 3 sq ft.
Now every body know that this kind of structured will never be able to probe in court and it was perfectly a wiling buyer and willing seller story. It was no wrong when the Mamak Tail commented that it was no thing wrong in the eye of law but it was morally.
To a tax payer we really can not do anything, really only continue to pay through our nose and again by this coming 30 June large amount of taxes will be follow into the Government coffer.
PONSI SCHEME is criminally but this kind of structured product was perfectly ok in Malaysian Law!
Forget about bring those suckers to charge, even are not even has the chance to read what the report is all about.
As I mentioned before forget about the report. This was clear in the first day, to suck the tax payers money, the only difference was that this time they do it big , real big and we are talking of billions and the bills is keep increasing?
Please read me right Folks. Many of you have dutifully paid up your dues by 30 April and many of us who doing their business as sole prop and partnership are lining up. Their accountants are chasing them like no head chicken to finalized their business accounts so that the final bill could be finalize and pay up!
Yes what you paid and going to pay very soon will part of it go to foot the bond interest that was guaranteed by your father whose name is BN.
dear Folks be good to your country and pay and let the suckers suck like nobody business!!!
“Yes what you paid and going to pay very soon will part of it go to foot the bond interest that was guaranteed by your father whose name is BN.” (ALLAN THAM)
ALLAN THAM,
It seems that you know something about the scandal which most people don’t know. Why don’t you please tell us about the inside out story in much more detail?
If the party which serves as the guarantor in the contractual deal or bond issuance is BN, then it will be BN which has to bear the consequences of serving as a guarantor. Why should all the tax payers be getting involved in paying the huge debt?
If the said bond had not been guaranteed by the Federal Government of Malaysia through the passing of a resolution in the Parliament, why should the Malaysian tax payers be required to bear the financial obligation created in the said guarantee?
YB Kit,
Perhaps the RM12 billion debt was just a speculation based on rumour being plugged in through the air!!!
DAP leaders have to be careful when commenting on such a scandal since the ground for making accusation on any party in the said scandal was still unclear! It could be a political trap similar to the one which had been used to trap Guan Eng before in the sex scandal of a former Malacca CM.
Kasim Amat.
Do you think MACC is the right agency to probe this corruption case given its dubious reputation? What has MACC accomplished to-date. It is only good at harassing the opposition and when it comes to umno and its cronies, it will end up as no evidence.
Corruption is corruption no matter how creative you want to define that. Any use of position of trust for dishonest gain is corruption. Of course, your mamakthir would interpret it as a moral issue. That way he and his family and all the umno members and cronies will not be prosecuted for corruption.
Why should the PwC report need umno’s approval before it can be released to the public? Since this is a corruption case involving people money, the public should have every right to know.
Sensitive my foot. If you rob and cheat the public, you are a thieve and a crook and it doesn’t matter if you are sitting in high places. The cabinet has no moral rights to withhold the release of the report unless they want to do a Atantuya, ie., appoint a scrape goat and then have him C4ed.
On 21 May 2009 at 17:34.03, Kasim Amat said:
The executive chairman of PKA has resigned and he has no power in deciding over the matter of PKA, including the release of the PwC report.
Don’t be surprise if the PKA executive chairman had resigned because he wants to avoid holding any power of decision involving that report which could be made to implicate him further & deeper into this scandal…
On 21 May 2009 at 17:34.03, Kasim Amat said:
In the interest of everyone, since MACC has taken over the investigation, it will be more appropriate that the PwC report serves as a secondary report for the reference of MACC investigation work.
MACC/ACA should have started investigating this scandal much earlier which would have spared the people of unnecessary ‘tai chi’ moves from the transport minister…
On 21 May 2009 at 17:34.03, Kasim Amat said:
Should Datuk Ong Tee Keat rush to decide on the release of the report without prior approval from UMNO, he would be answerable to UMNO for any consequences that is unfavorable to the BN.
Being an elected MP and a cabinet minister, the transport minister should be answerable to the people, especially those who had voted for him in his constituency, unless of course, he owes his election victory to his bosses in UMNO. It should only matter whether the consequences of his actions are favourable or unfavourable to the people, not to only UMNO’s BN…
On 21 May 2009 at 17:34.03, Kasim Amat said:
The Cabinet should study the report carefully first and make a decision whether it is in the interest of the people on the release of the report.
If this report is to shed more light over this scandal which has been alleged to involve the misuse of public funds contributed to by the tax-paying citizens, the cabinet should not have the authority to withhold this report from public knowledge, unless of course, the members of the cabinet want to court disaster in the next election…
On 21 May 2009 at 17:34.03, Kasim Amat said:
The Cabinet also has the right not to release it if it involves many sensitive issues.
Nothing is more sensitive than the feelings of tax-paying citizens being kept in the dark over allegations of the misappropriation of public funds to shore up some badly mismanaged project.
Of course, those in power, especially the cabinet members, would want to declare their right to hold back any incriminating report or information if they are somehow implicated in this scandal, which means that they have something to hide…
I don’t think it is just a simple can of worms. The can contains big fat snakes indeed…. ready to bite whoever that open this can! Let’s open this can and let the people see if it contains a bunch of small worms or a few big fat snakes!
In the ‘secret’ UNMO/BN parliamentary session the BN MPs voted unanimously against releasing the RM12 billion PKFZ scandal as sensitive issuues are involved. The problem is that thorough ‘secret’ investigations could not established ‘who-took-how-much of the loot among them’. The Report, if released, will cause unrest among the BN Malay and Chinese Cabinet Ministers. However, they agreed to hand over the matter to MACC to ‘chia-chia’ ( sandiwara ) investigate.
Kasim Amat, is that what you mean?
Correction: could not establish
I don’t agree that such schemes are impossible to bring to court except that it is more complex and requires more prosecutors who are not hampered by the powers-that-be including the Cabinet who are supposedly required to OK the release of the PwC report.
See how even the CONsultants want to protect themselves?
As we have seen elsewhere like Enron and others, auditors and consultants can be prevailed on to give you a nice report.
Regarding a Ponzi scheme relating to land matters, the evidence is out there and if the government is really serious about curbing corruption, this is one good case to tackle with vim and vigour and not delay any further.
One thing about corruption – there is no convenient case to pick and choose. If we are serious about combating corruption, all cases need to be probed and persecuted- even if we do not know where the trail leads. Or do we know?
Why PKFZ is said to waste Tax Payer Money?
PKFZ was a federal government project. Any Federal Government project is funded from the federal taxes, that included taxes paid by the Rakyat and other indirect taxes.
That is why if the project is failure the government loss money and so was the tax payers. It is as simple as that.
The juices part that a lay fellow like will not be able to understand PWC report even it was make public. But I did understand why Mr. NAdes has written in the Sun paper. Eg. How you explained the following:-
1 The land was identified for PKFZ project. Next,
2 The said land sold to crony at RM3 per sq ft. Then next
3 The crony sold the land at RM23 per sq ft for PKA, to justify the asking price of RM23, it was reported that the asking price of RM23 come with complete infra structure.
Ok the turnkey contract was a company link to political parties, and this company will sure to make a lot of profit and was evidenced by the last 2 years audited accounts.
If the project is self financing and making profit then it will benefit the people, but we all know the project was in a mess despite good picture painted by the government of the day.
When any federal project loss money the money come from you and me. As simple as that.
Kick Ong Ta Kut out at no mercy!!!
Such cases should not require Cabinet OK. Does that mean the ministers get to see if their backs are covered?
Corruption should be weeded out without fear or favour – otherwise it will surely cripple the nation more.
Many may still puzzles how tax payer money was involve in PKFZ project? At mentioned any federal project involve federal taxes and thus tax payers money.
Some may think that once the project is privatize the federal government will be release of financial burden, but in Malaysia privatization was exactly the reverse, privatization will burden the government more. Take a look at PLUS? I need not further elaborate on the privatization of federal high way to plus on how it has burden the government and thus the tax payers.
Now come back to PKFZ. This project was conceptualized with the motive thus announced to public to turn Port Klang into transportation international hub, Sound great right? It also announce that the project will be self financing? Again sound very good indeed!
At the case has been, it end up the federal government through it Transport ministry has to grant a soft loan of RM4.6 billions to this project, on the face that this project was selh financing?
Where the soft loan of RM4.60 billions come from, it did not come from Ling? It did not come from Chan? It did not come from Ong? It did not come from MCA? It come from you and me, who is the tax payers. Who is going to rush like no head chicken to pay by 30.06. For those who are in employment must have already paid up by last 30.04. and those who doing their business in the form of Sdn Bhd are paying each month. These are the money that where this RM4.60 billions come.
Let not stop here was it was reported, PKA has to pay to TURNKEY contractor KDSB on annually basis and it come with interest rate of 7.5% ( FD rate is only 2.5% by today). I assume this rate 7.5% is fixed and if you, I say you folks and me too included. Not pay KDSB further interest?
Now you see folks, this how the suckers suck away your hard earn money. And on the other hand those scoring 10A are facing a shut door when ask for a scholarships?
So this is life in Malaysia? You have money of RM4.6 billion and it is going up by the days to commit to some uncertainty project, doubtful project, but you shut the doors to those who is your future tax payers?
Muhyiddin said Govt plans to limit subjects taken by students in SPM for easier PSD scholarship selection!
I said he is an idiot!
Why doesn’t he just reduce SPM to 1 single subject, any candidate can just take 1 subject, be it BM, Islamic Study, Art, as long as he/she get an A, he/she will be a qualified candidate for PSD!
Hi all,
Why until now still blaming and blaming?! Why did not anyone suggest the better to develop it?!!! Since the facilities were already built, opposition should cooperate with government to develop PKFZ. Who know it can generate more income to our country and create more job opportunities? Please don’t just know to critic but can not give good suggestion to develop country!
I say wanchong you are day dreamer ? If this project can be profitable the profit will not come to the people, it go to the suckers first. Only those project who need financing will allocate to you and me
People like Wanchong make stupid comments here. Even a person like Limkamput won’t bother to respond, but I will.
14 years ago, a chinaman went to Mamakthir and told him that he could build a massive hydroelectric dam in the middle of Sarawak. This chinaman’s previous experience was in construction of mid-sized buildings, but the Mamakthir agreed. Before the EIA could be approved, this Chinaman cleared the entire site, the size of Singapore. He took all the timber. Several years after that, with the project being non-viable, this chinaman returned the project to the government, and the government even agreed to compensate him RM800 million for “work done”.
So the government had the site, which was cleared, and people started saying that the country might as well proceed with the project. The government gave it to Sime Darby to manage. After 4 years of construction, and innumerable delays, and RM 8 billion spent, Sime Darby gave up and returned the project to the government.
So now the government says that we have spent all this money, we might as well make the project work. Now they have instructed TNB and the Sarawak government to proceed with a submarine cable connection to the peninsula. How much will this cost ? US$4 billion at last estimate. Who pays for this ? The government will guarantee the debt to make it viable. If the project is not viable, don’t worry, the government will subsidise and make it viable.
This is the standard story of BN. Let’s start digging a hole, and if the hole gets bigger, let’s just keep digging and make it even bigger. We pays for the digging ? The taxpayers.
Enough is enough. The thieves have to go.
even the project is viable and profitable they will made it not viable and losing money. How, simple inflate the costs and pocket it. How on earth project under BN can be viable?
As I say it again there is no different between BN project and PONSI projects? They all have some characteristics.
Saying they are thieves is an understatement. They are simply buaya darat, and bone suckers not even blood sucker. They sucker every thing until you have nothing not even your bone is left.
The Eurocopter deal was also going along the same lines. They were going to overprice the deal until public outrage stopped it. Perhaps temporarily, but it got stopped. If it had not been stopped, then the sequence would be similar – overprice the deal, enter into a management contract with a crony, crony takes the money and run, leaving the helicopters with no proper maintenance, the government steps in and puts up more money, taxpayers get screwed.
Godfather,
Very well said. Your comments above about the project Dam must be well circulated in all media.
Fu*k the BN!
Fu#k all the scumbags!
OTK is in trouble now, he is riding on a tiger which he finds it to come down, a chinese idiom-qi hu nan xia.
Will the Cabinet disclose the report? Many former ministers will be implicated and investigated.
This scandal is a test to the MACC on whether it dares to fight against its boss.
Hi “Godfather” and Allan Tham,
Before giving comments, please give proof. ok? Please do not barking at wrong tree!!! Even Menteri Besar Selangor,Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim also said we must put effort to develop PKFZ and not to just leave it…
developed or other wise. Profit or other wise. Billions of money has been pocketed by the crooks. This was the real issue
exuse me my friend Allan Tham..
How did u know the money has been pocketed by the crooks??
i really curious curious about what u guys r talking..
do u really get the black and white before u said anything.??
why r u so free keep on critising such an issue??
have u ever think of idea how to develope the country??
this is just so called a caring malaysian that u wish to be not like what u r doing..
i’m quite frustrated since i was the supporter of Rocket for so long..
we try to make a change dont ever let ppl think that we r always criticising criticising other’s business..we need to develope the country we stay too for the sake of rakyat for most our community..-:
Whether OTK to make public the PwC audit report or not, the issue is not there…..what you all can do toward the report??? Like what wanchong have said, we should suggest something that is good for our country in order to cope with the global crisis and political issue that we are facing now!!! Please do not condemn just because of you want to…..You are wasting your ‘precious’ time….Time is money!!! You will not benefit from condemning….it will just worsen the situation now and end up with battle…
Wanchong:
What “proof” do you need ? 90 pct of what I said is actually public knowledge. If you don’t know that an area the size of Singapore has been cleared in the middle of Sarawak, use google-earth. For information on other matters, try wikipaedia and newspaper archives. Putting your head in the sand is not an option. As somebody said earlier, it is more like a game of “who wants to be a billionaire”.
While you are thinking, let me ask you about the crooked bridge project. If you haven’t heard about the project, just google it. A company controlled by an UMNOputra called Gerbang Perdana was compensated a huge amount of money when the project was called off. Now you take a ride along the causeway now, and tell me whether the concrete stumps put up by this company is worth hundreds of millions of ringgit in compensation.
The gomen built the new CIQ complex (with Gerbang Perdana as a contractor) for RM 1.5 billion.
Today, Najib announced that they are going to build an eastern crossing, so what is going to happen to the current CIQ complex ? Convert into warehousing right in the middle of JB ?
There is a saying – never throw good money after bad. The thieves HAVE to throw good money after bad because too many questions would be raised as to why the money went bad in the first place.
If you are a taxpayer, and if you still say you don’t need any answers to this scandal, then there must be something seriously wrong with you.