Nigel Aw | Mar 26, 2012
Malaysiakini
DAP supremo Lim Kit Siang has declared that Pakatan Rakyat will probe attorney-general Abdul Gani Patail and former inspector-general of police Musa Hassan for alleged criminal wrongdoing if it captures federal power in the next general election.
This, he said, is because Prime Minister Najib Razak’s refusal to act on former Commercial Crimes Investigation Department (CCID) chief Ramli Yusuff’s complaint that Gani had fixed him and his team of police officers after they arrested an underworld figure.
“If there is no judicial tribunal, then we have to go back to the mandate of the people for a tribunal to find out whether we have criminals as the (former) head of police and attorney-general,” Lim told a 5,000-strong crowd at a Pakatan Rakyat ceramah in the Kuala Selangor stadium last night.
Lim said the allegation made by a former top police officer was unprecedented even in other countries and should have warranted an immediate investigation from the premier.
Last Friday, Najib had dismissed calls for a tribunal, stating that it was merely a claim which had yet to be substantiated.
Following this, Ramli expressed his disappointment that he and his officers, which he said had been wrongly charged but subsequently cleared by the courts, have been denied any avenue for justice.
Police officers willing to testify
Malaysiakini had reported that in 2007, Ramli – on the orders of then deputy internal security minister Johari Baharum – investigated Johor-based underworld figure Goh Cheng Poh only to find, according to the ex-CCID chief, indications that Musa had helped Goh in his gambling and money-laundering businesses.
Gani was said to have then instructed the Anti-Corruption Agency (now the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission) to access highly-confidential files on the case and used that information to hunt down informants who assisted Ramli’s team and coerced them into implicating the police investigators instead.
Ramli and six of his police officers were later hauled to court on various charges but they were all acquitted.
Following the revelation, several police officers, both serving and retired, have come forward with offers to testify if a tribunal is set up to investigate Gani and Musa.
Probe on AG and ex-IGP if Pakatan captures Putrajaya ONLY?
What about probe on the Tuns, as demanded by mamaktiu, plus the probe on why and how the Mongol gal got blown up to smithereens by 2 policemen who have absolutely no motive in her murder.
Also how a mamak with no experience in rearing cows suddenly wa sgiven a quarter of a billion ringgit to rear 8,000 cows
BN must be kicked out in GE13. We cannot have a government rotten to the core to lead this country anymore.
Actually pity the AG who will take over when PR comes into power – Just Mahathir related cases alone will take an army of prosecutors and examiners to go through. The justice system will be brought to a standstill if even just only the big names are prosecutors..
Which is why it is difficult to contemplate a peaceful democratic and constitutional tranistion of power via ballot box here. Such warnings of probe when PR wins Federal power is the very reason for those presently in power and have skeletons in their cupboards – and there are many and many of these bringing to mind what Sharizat said, “which Umno member has no problem?” to cling to power at all cost (whatever the ballot results) will defend PutraJaya at all costs and make sure that peaceful transition of power by the proper rules of the game will never happen. Already in this period before the GE we witness serial political violence inflicted on opposition politicians and civil society activists by thugs reportedly supportive of the incumbent government and reactionaries opposed to any form of reform.
We, the public, know the M’sian Police too well, we know who they are, we can even guess what is their corruption rate like (IGP say, MACC prove only 1%)… say what they like, that 1% are those we always meet on the street.
After PR took over putrajaya, form the IPCMC, whether to probe the AG/IGP is no longer important. Too many prorities, probing AG/IGP is not at the top.. but it would be satisfying, though.
We need to establish a process/mechanisim to ensure AG/IGP do their work, not ding/dong around and protect tunku goh. If AG refuse to charge Ganni Patail, what are you going to do?
No tribunal will be called. Sharizat endorsed as head of Wanita. It is pretty clear they are no longer interested at this juncture with being seen above board on any issue or even to try bolster any pretext at seeking accountability or diffuse any scandal. They are only banking on one thing (right or wrong) : their ethnocentric record, and their affirmation of Ketuanan will secure forgiveness if not acquiescence of all excesses and abuse of power (a trade off & inevitable cost against the benefit of racial hegemony) by their traditional constituency – and together with Fixed Deposit votes in East Malaysia- sufficient aggregate votes to win the day and have parliamentary majority. They have calculated that they don’t need the votes of others disaaproving their ways, these votes being nice to have, if they can obtain, but strictly not essential for purposes of holding on to Federal power! So save your breath. No matter what, they cannot be cajoled to do more to expose their own kind just because of the imminent GE.
Hi YB Mr Lim,
This is my humble suggestion which I hope all DAP and PR should take to heart. Its a simple request to refrain from provocative statements like this.
Allow me to explain: the rakyat who wants such action is already a die-hard supporter of PR and such statements will not win anymore new votes. On the contrary, such statements alarm the established order (ie. existing corrupt ministers, civil servants, etc) because they will realise that a change of govt to PR will not just mean losing power, its also a real threat of being thrown into jail or worse. Such realisation will only push such corrupt people into a corner and as the saying goes, desperate people will do desperate things.
Sir, I want DAP and PR to win as much as you do but do be a bit wise and think of the aftermath and consequence of statements like this.
For PR to take over Putrajaya and clean up 55 years of mas.ive (large) dungs, it has the monumental task of winning the next GE.
Concentrate on winning as it will be the dirtiest elections of all, where ghosts, phantoms and foul play will be the order of the day.
It is good that PR announces what it will do when it takes over, but make sure the winning do take place as otherwise, all efforts will be for nothing. And the people will continue to suffer.
Make it this time as there will probably be no next time.
They are not even interested in being seen recovering the moral ground : an example is when one of their own ( Tan Sri Abdul Kadir Sheikh Fadzir), a veteran of many decades, having once served as Supreme Council member and minister and is in the position ro compare state of affairs then and now, criticised about “racial divisions corruption wastage and abuse of power as proof of how Malaysia had strayed far from the collective vision of early Umno leaders such as Datuk Onn Jaafar Tunku Abdul Rahman and Tun Abdul Razak who worked for the people” – and their response, is if he didn’t like this state of affairs, he could quit. . .
One has to be realistic. Why did sometimeback Ambiga broach the topic of “amnesty” under certain conditions? Right and wrong she intended it to facilitate a smooth transition. It was not so much to condone corruption as to facilitate a new order for Malaysia to be able to start from a new slate, which otherwise cannot even happen! The joke is everyone criticised her as compromising with corruption. Can one imagine the irony that even an UMNO minister attacked her (ie taking your side to seek recourse against corruption after winning Putajaya!) Do you believe in his sincerity? Lets be practical here: why is it that a peaceful democratic and constitutional electoral change of power (without open street fighting and army clampdown) is so rare in 3rd world countries? Put oneself on the other side of the fence in which (say) it’s a norm to get away with corruption and abuse of power as if they were an entitlement. Suddenly with an electoral defeat not only one loses power and privileges but also faces the prospect of being hounded for deeds considered a norm when one party was in power. It is like retribution. Would one play by civilised rules to religuish power? I would think never! In any contest one does not push the opponent to the corner where he has no graceful exit. When a cat is cornered by a pitbull with no where to turn what does it do? A cat will die anyway so it fights back and bites the pitbull even in a match of unequal strength. And here BN is not even a cat: it controls the security forces and the army! PR should get wise and stop talking as what ngtom70 earlier said.