Soalan: Sim Tong Him (Kota Melaka) meminta Perdana Menteri menyatakan adakah kedudukan project membaik pulih, menaik taraf, mengubahsuai dan bina baru bangunan Parlimen Malaysia dengan butir-butir kerja-kerja yang akan dilaksanakan, jumlah kos terlibat, tarikh kerja dimulakan dan bilakah projek ini akan dapat siap dibina keseluruhannya.
Jawapan: Dato’ Seri Mohamed Nazri (Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri)
Tuan Yang Di Pertua,
Terdapat cadangan untuk membina sebuah Kompleks Parlimen yang baru di dalam kawasan yang sedia ada. Pembinaan Kompleks Parlimen yang baru adalah bertujuan memenuhi keperluan Parlimen Malaysia di masa akan datang dengan mengambil kira aspek keselesaan, keperluan, kemuduhan dan pertambahan bilangan ahli Parlimen.
Kerja-kerja membaik pulih, menaik taraf dan mengubahsuai bangunan Parlimen sedia ada pula adalah bagi membaik pulih struktur bangunan dan mengganti sistem mekanikal dan elektrik yang telah uzur. Cadangan ini telah di bawa ke Mesyuarat Jemaah Menteri untuk pertimbangan. Baru-baru ini, Jemaah Menteri telah memutuskan agar bangunan Parlimen yang baru dibina di Putrajaya manakala bangunan Parlimen yang lama akan dibaik pulih dan dikekalkan sebagai bangunan warisan. Walaubagaimanapun, butiran lanjut mengenainya masih dalam peringkat kajian oleh JKR.
Sekian, terima kasih.
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Parliament may move to Putrajaya
By Asrul Hadi Abdullah Sani | The Malaysian Insider
KUALA LUMPUR, June 9 — The government is considering moving the Parliament to the Putrajaya administrative capital, a move which could cost up to RM800 million.
However, Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Nazri Aziz told reporters that the Cabinet had yet to discuss the relocation.
“It’s not decided yet. We will bring it to the Cabinet to be discussed,” he said.
He added that the Cabinet would also look into possibly demolishing the current Parliament building.
“We will look into every aspect. The Parliament is actually a heritage building so we would have to see if we could demolish it.
The minister said another option would be to refurbish the existing building, which would cost substantially less than a new construction.
“We would need the RM150 million for upgrading [works], like fixing the roof and the electricity supply.
“While for the construction of a new Parliament [building], we might need RM800 million. So we will consider on the best proposal,” Nazri said.
Have anyone visited Putrajaya offices lately? Look closer and you will notice things like peeling paint, cracked wall, worned out floors, even badly maintained toilets etc. Same thing for the Bukit Jalil Stadium and the new courts.
The existing Parliament, outdated it may be but because of good foundation of the original work still is fanstatically solid even if there are worned out parts.
Frankly, the Parliament should be moved so that someone else can takeover and maintain it properly for historical reason. Leave it in the hands of the BN govt and eventually it will be ruined like everything good we inherited from the founders of this country.
Do we really need a new Parliament building when our country is going bankrupt in 2019?
UMNO regime is always finding excuses to make money by giving contracts to its cronies.
“It’s not decided yet. We will bring it to the Cabinet to be discussed,” he said.
What is there to be discussed? Whatever that they want to do, they will just do it. License for selling sugar? Legalise betting? Stop investigating PKFZ?
YB
It looks like these UMNO/BN looters and plunderers have no appreciation of history, architecture, culture or heritage!!
The Bristish Parliament building at Westminster has been there since 11th century and has had major repairs done 3 times over nearly a thousand years due to serious fires.
Nazri wants to abandon ours a mere 48 years after spending over $150 million on roof repairs recently!
It look s like Nazri is proposing this with one eye on a massive retirement golden handshake. For sure, an initial $800 million budget will balloon to $2 billion after VO’s, delays and cost overruns with the directly negotiated contractor going bust and having to be bailed out!
Please put a stop to this nonsense and fraud in the offing as without fiscal discipline, M’sia will fast be heading to bankruptcy with national debt of $362 billion growing at OVER 12% per annum compounded!!
dpp
we are all of 1 arce, the Human race
Putrajaya is just good looking from ‘ a distance’, step nearer, you will see that the clever blending of colours is deceiving. The quality of work is definitely 3rd CLASS! There was indeed no proper planning done, simply insufficient car parks, cars are parked all over the place strengthening the perception of real 3rd class mentality inplanning and application of good resources. You are purposely misguided to come out of the location so that you final route is the Maju toll where if you have the misfortune to use it after the Gomen office hours, you will be left waiting for at least 20 mins just to cross the toll booths! So much for the BEST PLANNED modern capital of a nation!!
How much did they spend on waterproofing the roof of the current Parliament building ? RM 90 million ? At least it has withstood the test of time. Nowadays, new buildings built by the Gomen will have collapsing roofs and walls after the warranty period has expired.
Wo…….w! some blardy buggers are going to get blardy rich!
Parliament house should be proposed in Bukit Bintang.
http://blog.miragestudio7.com/the-architecture-of-democracy-proposed-parliament-house-in-malaysia/2641/
governmet building should be close to the people, be with the people and comes with no wall or fence. it should encourage indirect participation of democracy.
Maybe Parliament should just relocate to the PKfzzzzz.
And we may just save one or two BN White Elephants.
What for waste RM800 million – to bring legislative nearer to Executive in Putrajaya for latter to symbolically control it? Democracy looks better if there’s a newer more prestigious Parliament building meh?
They need the current Parliament land for a Water Theme Park with Eye on 1Malaysia.
Say, anybody seen the multi-million ringgit ‘palace’ complex they are building in the leafy Lake Gardens for the former PM, the ‘Sleepy One’? Go take a look.
The Malay Mail highlighted it some weeks ago with photos. A non-issue? Or a Tun trying to smack another Tun.
change the composition of the Parliament, not its physical building.
Aiyaa…it’s last kopek time…These crooks know come GE13, it’s game over. If they dont rob now and as much as possible, how else to make money. Better still they can saddle the incoming PR govt with debt so massive they cant govern…what better way to kill two birds with one stone.
We are in a deficits and our robbers wants comfort in a new building in Putrajaya. Maybe it’s the minister’s or BN’s gift to PR when PR takes over Putrajaya.
RM150 million for upgrading works, tak shiok n tak cukup 4 leakages 2 fatten BNputras
RM800 million 4 a new Parliament building baru shiok, happy hour is here again
Well, er, RM800 million 4 now, U know lah
By d time d new building is up, d total amt may b RM1.6 billion, typical of gomen projects, many mouths 2 feed U know
B generous lah, we also hv d new palace n d new palatial mansion 4 AAB along Jln Duta
Now wasn’t it MIC chief S Samy Vellu who 2 years ago drew a parallel between the “dilapidated” state of Parliament and the looks of a 50-year-old woman who had lost her beauty??? Wasn’t he the one whose metaphor of a ‘50-year-old woman’ drew flak from women groups like Joint Action Group for Gender Equality (JAG) for reinforcing the gender stereotype that a woman’s worth lies with her extrinsic attributes (looks) and not with her intrinsic qualities as a human being??
And now they want to change Parliament – have a new one at Putrajaya that could cost up to RM800 million – and yet complain we have no money and need to cut back on subsidies with one minister Idris Jala saying we’re on road to bankruptcy if we don’t cut back expediture ???
Typical mentality of an already not-well-to middle age man who wants, at the slightest whims and urge, to re-cycle his 50 year old wife for a younger nubile virgin even if the latter substitute will blow a hole in his pocket?
Nazri should consider seriously the lower cost alternative like upgrading [works], fixing the roof and the electricity supply : like an “old wife” that has served well – take a leaf from Samy’s advice, a bit of expense on maintenance and renovations spent on her, like stem cell injection, plastic surgery will, so to speak fix the the problem and cost relatively less than blowing one’s pocket for a brand new problem! (Samy himself fixed it by a wig?)
This is typical mindset complained of by JAG of putting more importance on “extrinsic attributes (looks)” rather than on what that counts – the intrinsic qualities whether of wife or the institution of Parliament!
The worth of Parliament is in its intrinsic structure of practices – whether democratic or despotic – and the way the MPs conduct themselves.
It is supposed to be a citadel of Malaysian Democracy including Freedom of Speech. What we have, as I have complained in earlier thread, is a lack of respect for freedom of speech. Instead of debating and refuting the Opposition Head’s allegations linking APCO and Jews and 1 Malaysia to 1 Israel and by rational arguments showing them fallacious or spurious in the best tradtion of democratic parliamentary debate Commonwealth style – they prefer to flex their majority status to refer him to PRPC (dominated by ruling coalition’s members party) for punishment in the process denying him the right to counsel that is allowed even by the House’s own Standing Order 83 Rule 7A! Other earlier times quality of debate was interspersed by sexist innuendoes of a MP who alluded to a fellow woman MP’s menstrual cycle, the very same who lately was one of those in centre of a heated argument between opposition MPs and several Barisan MPs in Parliament’s Senate Lounge – (see Malaysiakini’s report “MPs clash in Senate lounge” by Christine Chan Jun 9, 10 3:47pm).
This is precisely the point: whats the point of having a brand new Parliament (cost RM800 million) when its intrinsic qualities are at these levels? Likje whats the point of having a young wife, beautiful in outward appearances, but whose inner qualities are quarrelsome and bitchy, vindictive, insecure restrictive of the man’s freedom???
If you sit back and observe, those in power are very keen on project constructions and buying sophiscated machinery knowing very well the maintenance of both are generally beyond the ability of the civl service to undertake the job. Hence this two sectors are the favourites especially in the name of privatization. And this is not a one-off sirtuation, it is being repeated times and again. So the pronouncement that the nation can go bankrupt may not be far off. You can just wonder as to why the cost is so high but the quality is so low: reason – corruption. when underhand tactics like that of the Batu cave incident is allowed to take place, we ain’t far from Hilter’s style of gomen
though we have gone over 60 years after him!
///And this is not a one-off situation, it is being repeated times and again. So the pronouncement that the nation can go bankrupt may not be far off./// – #17
Generally in any kleptocracy, government spending is a raison de etre and an end in itself without which there is no opportunity to make money by elites holding the reins of power over the national purse and in position to create projects and an excuse to spend.
I would imagine that, unless the country is high income, no matter how tight the purse strings government spending has to continue, as if having life of its own, to be financed from printing of more money that exacerbates inflation or impose more taxes & more taxes direct or indirect / raise more borrowings until either the common people, faced with hardship from either more taxes or inflation, put an earlier end to it by another government or the country goes into bankruptcy when it defaults in debts (where again the people faced with hardship from unemployment, devaluation in currency, bust of bubble/asset values created in part as response to hedge against inflation, will again vent their anger by trying to replace the government), whichever the earlier.
It is an inexorable course.
This means that an individual, if faced with the prospect of being unable to change the inexorable course by his and other votes through the ballot box, has left only two options in terms of personal financial survival: either get out of the kleptocracy or join the system (by connecting to elites and their friends) to amass his own financial nest to buffer and weather against the worst case scenario – provided in the latter case, the money amassed has to be hedged in assets located in other more stable political, social and economic systems.
However where is, in present times, the more stable political and economic system to look for safe haven?
Many governments of the world are in varying degrees, kleptocracies, so if Greece/Ireland/Iceland/Argentina/Portugal cumulative contagion spreads (like dominoes) the other more kleptocratic of nations will join the gathering momentum threatening large swathes of the world.
So far the US and whatever confidence there is left of the Greenback is still bulwark against the critical mass of an avalanche crystallising.
Though US is beggar & debtor nation with most humongous deficit there are those like Tommy Koh, S’pore’s ambassador at large to US from 1984 to 1990, president of the Third United Nations Conference on the Law of the Sea and present chairman of Institutute of Policy Studies NUS who opines that it can still hold as bulwark with Greenback being sustained by what he called the “X” global confidence factor.
He gave four factors for this:
1. The US has the requisite brains and talents to manage/contain its economic travails and sustain economic competitiveness driven by creative innovation and marketing and further development of information technology;
2. US’s top universities and research institutions supply and support 1. above;
3. Americans have “soft power” and cultural hegemony/influence: people listen to its music, watch Hollywood films, follow their ideas from fashion, business to their political ideals (whether they themelves are hypocritical or not, another question); and
4. unprecedented military power and geo-political influence.
If the current Parliament building is no longer fit to use, there are still many white elephants around which can be used. So, do not bring forward 2019 to 2015 or maybe 2012 (if the RM50b project is given the green light)
Nazri’s and the government is merely being consistent in their thinking:
Having First World infrastructure but having third or fourth world mentality.
The quality of the vast numbers of our MPs are suspect.
Better if we have a ‘National Jirga’ like Afghanistan.
Jeffrey, may be you missed a point. Unlike the European/Latin American countries you mentioned, East Asian country, Malaysia included, are high savers country. That theoretically explains why the government can go on borrowing (domestically) and spending without causing much inflation. Just look at the compulsory saving through the EPF and also the Treasury’s and Bank Negara’s sukuk/bonds as well as PNB’s amanah saham that were being issued and taken up so easily. In other words, people are not spending and investing and the government is doing it on their behalf, although inefficiently and with lots of wastage and corruption. But the situation may have shifted slightly now. Increasingly people are becoming more aware and are taking step to protect whatever they have. So for lack of investment opportunities (and with interest rates being kept artificially low) they started to buy real estates, pushing the prices to bubbly level. Some perhaps may have started to put some of their savings overseas. You see, cowboy countries can never make it good. The main export of Argentina for many years has been US$ and that is why that country sank and it shall sink again. Most governments can cheat a little, but if it becomes excessive and systemic, the whole system will eventually collapse.
The Finance Minister, when answering a parliamentary question, mentioned that there was net repayment of foreign debt in 2009. How did that happen when the government budget was in deficit? If you look at the Budget, there was no allocation on debt repayment. So where did the money have come from to pay down foreign debts other than through domestic borrowing.
its all A LIE !!!! m’sia won’t go bankrupt because it can afford a new parliament during this time for only RM800 MILLION !!!
idris and koh shu khoon should be detained under ISA for instilling false reports which can cause fear among the rakyat and the investors alike .
we are quite sure once the new building is completed, it will be around RM1.2 Billion !!! and that’s not counting the monthly maintenance cost !!!!
since m’sia is so rich, bn CANNOT IMPLEMENT GST or cut down SUBSIDIES !!!!
by the way, this new parliament project desn’t benefit the rakyat but for the comfort of the mps only !!!
the rakyat still has to face th gruesome war-zone of how to make ends meet at the end of the day !!!
The proposed new buiding is the usual MO for Bankrupsi Negara government to hand out lucrative contracts to cronies. Putrajaya Hldgs. needs this project to reduce the subsidies it receives from the government.
I wonder how they arrived at the RM150mil bill to repair the leaking roof(this was supposed to have been done a few years ago) and internal wiring. I would guess that replacing the entire roof beams etc and tiles should not cost more than RM50mil and perhaps another RM30mil to redo the entire wiring for the complex. Has anyone seen any tender offers for the repair job?
Of course the Parliament proceeding will need to be held elsewhere but I am sure the many convention centres will be willing to lease an underutilised convention hall with proper amenities for say 12 months for the repairs to be carried out. I suggest the Dewan Negara and Dewan Rakyat stagger their dates so that only one hall is required.
Would a RM12mil rental be adequate for a convention hall that can seat the MPs for 12 months?
But I say we also need a new Parliament…
http://malaysiawatch4.blogspot.com/2010/06/i-agree-we-should-have-new-parliament.html
Actually the issue is not the RM800 million Parliament building, if it is built. In fact, when we first build Putrajaya, the first building should be the Federal Parliament for this is the essence of representative government and symbol of democracy. If our parliament is not effective, it is not the fault of representative government. It is the fault of us, the half past six people, electing half past six representatives. Of course, as practised in most countries, the Executive Branch has always taken precedence and dominated the whole government processes. So while we may have reservation over the proposed new parliament building, we should perhaps look into the offices of the executive branch. The grandeur and luxury is simply beyond our imagination, totally not in line with the income level of the country. In a way, it is so easy to discern whether a country has a third world mentality. We often watched in TV the offices of presidents and prime ministers of different countries. The degree of opulence is always inversely proportionate with the income and stage of development of the country, i.e. the more developed the country, the more simple the executive office of its president and prime minister.
i agree… hahaha…
Please let them (BN) build the new parliament house in Putra Jaya.And later let them taste the bitterness in the house they build as opposition members.
The government is trying to hasten the bankruptcy scenario to 2015 or thereabout. Why wait for 2019?
The faster the country goes bankrupt the faster they can amass their oversea bank accounts and flee the country.
Frugal fiscal policy as never UMNO’s fort. Corruption is.
Corretion:
Frugal fiscal policy was never UMNO’s fort. Corruption is.
Yeah one of the blessings of this country (nothing to do with govt’s enlightened policy), besides oil wealth on income side, is our high savings (Gross National Savings estimated at 36.7 per cent for 2008) “which explains why the government can go on borrowing (domestically) and spending without causing much inflation” and also maintenance of a lower external debt (that help in the face of financial and currency crises).
High savings as a buffer may help but for how long if govt that invests on our behalf, so to speak, continues investing in cronies’ projects of questionable feasibility?
A lot depends on the “X” (confidence) factor which in turns depends on a myriad of other political/economic factors that impact on the question of capital flight.
Early this year, if one believes UBS Securities Asia Limited report, Malaysia’s once strong foreign exchange reserves was subject to severe strain. It said that in 2009, Malaysia experienced the biggest foreign exchange reserve losses among Asian countries with foreign capital outflows from Malaysia in 2009 being nearly 50 percent of its GDP.
This might have being caused by the local big boys relocating RM assets or foreigners exiting but if these very same concerns affecting these people should broaden down to level of ordinary men in the street, having high savings, won’t they not take out their savings to join capital flight, and what will happen to our much touted advantage of high savings then?
I can imagine a number of cataysts that will shake confidence but you guys could probably think of more.
To all PR aduns!
Stop all mega projects with all your constitutional rights.
If need to go on, delay it till after the next GE.
This were prevent those suckers from siphoning off the rakyat’s money intentionally.
Johore stripped Chua Jui Meng’s datukship.
Guys..remember comment FOR or AGAINST as you can see…those against UMNO…are treated as nobodies.
Najib’s “1 Malaysia” clearly seen.
So comments not with the art or nice guy personality .to agree to disagree and enjoy talking..and fall into BN worms traps.
This is my opinions..not my command like some twisting my real intentions.
Be brave and be clear…for or against.
Can talk like friends to all after 13th GE.
Now is FOR or AGAINST.
From now onwards…I will comment less and read more…unless I read and find a smart Alex trying to fish votes for BN.
Goodbye.
Oh hell… will the agung revoke my tansri-ship next? I am anti-bn like Encik (no more latuk) Chua JM. Will we be awarded the “Pendatangship” now?
Very nice sounding title—YBhg Pendatang Chua JM!
The trouble is those umno idiots consulted some wind-water people who advised them to relocate the parliament hse if they want to secure more favourable outcome in elections (GE and by’s).
Johore stripped jui meng of datukship? Oh no. Wrong move, umno. Very very wrong move. The next worse thing after the insult by jib using money for school to exchange for votes is to belittle chinese by removing jui meng’s title without reasons. Whatever little that is left of mca is due to johorean chinese’s support. Now umno might as well cremate mca ahead of mic and gerakan. For chinese up and down the country will certainly react to this come GE13.
Chua, better faster give back the two datukship awards. If Johor Royal Council secretary Abdul Rahim Ramli said that Johor palace was not obliged to reveal its reasons, the public too are entitled to draw the appropriate inferences about this revocation under unprecedented circumstances.
This unprecedented revocation of the honorific titles will crown Mr Chua Jui Meng with a greater and more permanent public honour of being the first to suffer his titles withdrawn on grounds of political affliliation.
I wonder what will happen if all Pakatan Rakyat’s politicians with datukships offer their titles to be withdrawn – in solidarity with Chua – if political affiliation were cited at reason for withdrawal.
Jeffrey, you have to be careful. If they revoke, it is ok. But if other opposition members decide to give back in solidarity with Chua, it will be a different matter altogether. It may be an act of…….(you fill up the blank lah).
Datuk title is an insult to one’s reputation nowadays. Datuk will always be linked to corruption, bribery,……So, removing the title from you actually made me respect you more.
Perhaps the Johor Palace remove “the wrong Chua” of his title?….
and we got a ‘KODOK’ from another state being awarded datukship earlier this year? And a Datuk from PR become Katak?
1. Approve gaming license to Ascot
2. Cut subsidy
3. Implement GST
4. Increase TNB and GAS
5. Increase sugar and flour price
Last last build a new Parliament pulak!
It is not proper if the titles are withdrawn just because a person changes a political party.
The royal family should not be perceived to be taking sides.
Do not be despair, Mr Chua Jui Meng!
Datuk or no datuk, we human can’t live in this world forever.
Why should we care about human created title after all.
I think that the Putrajaya International Converntion Centre should be converted to our New Parliament.
Viagra Chua Ah Lek who was filmed having extra-marital sex and performing unnatural sexual acts against the order of nature, was never asked to return his datukship. Chua JM should take his case to the ICC.
Why the discrimination against Ah Meng whilst Ah Lek keeps his latukship and gets promoted to mca president?
The present parliamentary building is still functioning well, so why the need for constructing a new one. The money should be better used for other projects more beneficial to the people.
The present Legislative House should be a heritage building put to good use and proudly occupied by all MPs.
This is the reason why “Voters get voters” is so important to vote BN out before Malaysia went bankrupt!!!!!!!!
Building another RM800Million building just like that, huh!!!!!
Is it another BN brilliant idea to spend money so that cronies would enrich themselves!!!!
Enough is enough!!!! Vote BN out.
The money should be better spent to help the RAKYAT to cushion increasing financial burden.
PR MP’s should stand up and be counted!!!
Do something to stop all this nonsense and kick BN in the ass…
Datukship and “degree” have similarity.
20 years ago, Datukship and “degree” must be earned with a lot of effort and obtaining them is a rarity.
Now, both of them are “cheap” and can be bought easily.
RM 180 million to REPAIR??? And it still leaks. I wonder what building can be put up for that amount.
just enough to build a tiny portion of the big fishes’ mansion….