I have come to Alor Gajah for the media conference by the family of Teoh Beng Huat who has just announced that they reject the Cabinet decision yesterday on the mysterious death of Teoh Beng Hock, who went to the MACC Hqrs as a healthy, vigorous and idealistic political worker but ended up as a corpse.
The Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Najib Razak and the Cabinet Ministers seem to be Malaysia’s David Copperfields, creating the illusion of a Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI) in Teoh’s death when actually there is none.
Like Teoh’s family members, I had at first welcomed the Cabinet decision when there was at first news that it had decided on a RCI on Teoh’s death but when the details of the Cabinet decision became known, we were all dumb-founded, shocked and outraged.
What is the use having two inquiries, with an inquest into Teoh’s death but a Royal Commission of Inquiry strictly prevented from delving into the causes of Teoh death but only to probe into the MACC’s investigative techniques?
I support the Teoh family’s stand to reject the Cabinet decision as it does not represent what is wanted by the family and the people – a RCI into the causes of Teoh’s unusual death.
The Teoh family has called on Najib to respect their wishes and those of the Malaysian public for a comprehensive Royal Commission of Inquiry into Teoh’s death and to alter the Cabinet decision accordingly.
Najib has said that he wants “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” about the causes of Teoh’s death, and if he serious and sincere, let him accede to the wishes of the Teoh family to have a comprehensive RCI into Teoh’s death.
Najib said he would meet with the Teoh family after the outcome of the inquest into Teoh’s death and the Royal Commission of Inquiry. What is the use of meeting the Teoh family when the damage had been done.
Najib should meet with the Teoh family to hear their wishes for a comprehensive Royal Commission of Inquiry.
I will write to Najib conveying the Teoh family’s request for a meeting with Najib and I am prepared to accompany the Teoh family to a meeting with Najib.
(Media Conference Statement at Alor Gajah press conference on Thursday, 23rd July 2009 at 12.30 pm)
“What is the use having two inquiries, with an inquest into Teoh’s death but a Royal Commission of Inquiry strictly prevented from delving into the causes of Teoh death but only to probe into the MACC’s investigative techniques?” LKS
If the purpose is to find the cause of death, whether it was suicide or the result of foul play the inquest would be the way to go.
Clearly there is foul play. So the way forward would be for the police to investigate, find enough evidence to charge the perpetrator or perpetrators and the rest is up to the AG.
The Royal Commission is to look into a broader range of issues.
One is distinct and separate and unrelated to the other.
Anyone for that matter will see red and duped, what more the feelings and anguish of Teoh’s family members who demand and want a Royal Commission of Inquiry into Beng Hock’s mysterious and suspicious death and not just an inquest led by a magistrate which has limited powers.
The whole truth should be revealed and not half-truths, and no stone should be left unturned into the circumstances surrounding young Beng Hock’s sudden demise.
There should be only one commission to look into firstly, Beng Hock’s death and secondly, the MACC’s standard operating procedures (SOP) in questioning witnesses and other duties. There are no two ways about it!
“Najib has said that he wants “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” about the causes of Teoh’s death, and if he serious and sincere, let him accede to the wishes of the Teoh family to have a comprehensive RCI into Teoh’s death.”
He would be setting a very dangerous precedent for himself too. Remember there are others waiting in the wings…..Altantuya, Kugan,…..
So what can you say about people who think that he is creating dangerous precedent for himself and yet call him to do just that??
This is bigger than Teoh Beng Hock. Setting up a Royal Commission to look into what happened to a witness in the custody of an investigative body like MACC, would pave the way for more Royal Commissions to look into the workings of the justice system starting with the Altantuya murder trial.
Najib is smart enough to know that we are handing over a rope long enough for him to use and hang himself with it. He is not stupid.
I too support the family’s wishes to have a RCI into Beng Hock’s unusual death. We all want answers and the nation will have no closure till the TRUTH is known.
More and more, this looks to me like a CYA (Cover Your Ass) approach by the govt. If it smells like a CYA, acts like a CYA, sings like a CYA, walks like a CYA, wags like a CYA, then IT IS A CYA. The question is: “Whose Ass or Asses is Najib trying to cover?”
Najib always talked about people should judge him by his action. But, when the tyre meets the road, he fails to come through. We see through the “smoke and mirror” and this time you will not succeed in fooling the people. So, get real and stand up and be counted. For once in your life, do the right and decent thing – order a RCI into Beng Hock’s unusual and untimely death.
We demand answers and justice for Beng Hock!!!!
Can Najib really capable to handle all the ghosts haunting malaysia as more ghosts are appearing even since 513?
Najib celebrates his birthday on 24 July 2009 and what kind of a gift short of the search for the truth for Teoh Beng Hock?
Another prominent scenario is the sudden death of SC Chan of Kuching who has a civil sui with the Sarawak CM? His bypass ops was supposed to be 90% success to be. Is there any foul play there of whatever? Should we also call for a full investigation there? He died on the day of total solar eclipse
pw: players yards
Countries governed by spin doctors are bound to fail. Don’t ever think you can hoodwink and bull sh!t people all the time. “A RCI when actually there is no RCI”. Obviously Beng Hock’s life is worth less than the MACC stupid investigating procedures. What is there to find out when even a fool knows what MACC is up to. Just like giving 10% discount on toll roads when actually there is hardly any discount to most road users.
Naj!b, you have to stop talking one thing and acting on another. Your time is running out.
PDRM is one of the best in the world. We have trained by the British and have undergo many many test such as during the communist era. PDRM is very experience not with standing that corruption was the norm.
By now they should know exactly what has happened. Never play play with PDRM. The first thing PM come he has got the brief from PDRM boss and he know exactly what is going one.
What next is how best to damaged control.
Rest assure the renewal is assured and this guy is still needed to do his national service. The rest is history.
More sandiwara. They know the answer. This is just a show, and a very poor show at that. They just dont get it that the Rakyat has grown up, and can see through their crookedness.
Please, Kit, prepare and work to form a good alternative. Their day of reckoning is coming soon.
Every step man take is a two way sword. One is positive and the other is negative, the Chinese say ying and yang.
RCI? hat RCI? Malaysian RCI is turn black into white and right the wrong nothing else.
You guys ask for RCI MA! So give lah RCI. NOT ENOUGH TOP UP WITH ANOTHER inquest. Silence you off.
Poor show resulted by poor director. With poor actor and poor director, what will be ended up ? Low class movie…….audience will spit on the screen…..we will vote you down and no more movie from Director Najib.
Just imagine, “Someone” asked MACC to interrogate the victim in such an unusual process, but ended up someone get killed unexpectedly. Do u think the so-called “Someone” will setup the RCI specifically probe on MACC ?
The end result is, this TBH case will be another classic KUGAN case again. Reason is simple, due to, It is still the same Director and same actors. Even the small kid will know what it will be ended up in the movie.
I pledge all citizens to vote thr BN out in the coming election.
Najib is worried that full RCI will also be called for Kugan and Altantuya cases. He has a lot to hide and to cover up. His ass is now on FIRE!
Yes, all Malaysians deserve Malaysian Rights.
To solve the racist problem, we must debate this land is ‘Tanah Asli” who lives here before any other races.
Who initiated by giving instruction to MACC to investigate Pakatan? Who killed Teoh Beng Hock? Did he kill himself? Only God can answer.
Will Najib meet the family members before the Inquest starts? He could meet Saifool for scholarship.
If NaJib is so scared of a true RCI into Teoh’s death, I can only assume that Najib was the one who ordered the MACC to probe into allegations of misuse of state funds by PR MPs. If Najib was not involved in the probe by the MACC, then why was he so afraid to call for a true RCI?
The news showed a sense of calmness despite anguish and sadness on the faces. Assumably TBH had warned them of his occupation hazard. It is only human that friend helps friend. Call it whatever you love to. Commission ke ? Inquiry ke ? You can have as many as you wish but in the end, you cannot answer the actual question. Put yourself in the court. Pretend you are a lawyer. Machine gun away all your questions. See if you have your answers. I bet your bottom ringgit that you have none. Just sweet words. Kind words. Sensitive words. But not the answers. Only God knows.
TBH can relate the whole story through a medium, which can help in the investigation to nail the murder(s) and to expose the origin of the plot.
Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad. Some called him a nationalist and the Father of Modernization. Others called him an economist, a genius and the Tiger of Asia. Without doubt, he has a massive following and is highly respected in Malaysia. That’s what most people see him. His accomplishments as a stateman.
But most people failed to reason and see his controversies. His mismanagement of the country and abuse of power. We inherited a corrupted system from him, where some said to the point of irreversability. The government, government agencies, the police, the courts, the ACA (now MACC) and you name it are linked to the system of management called Mahathirism. It is corrupted to the core. His successor, Abdullah tried to reform it. He failed.
Now the MACC is on the latest list of Royal Commission of Inquiry formed to investigate the MACC standard operating procedure in relation to the investigation process following the death of an opposition aide in a highly suspicious manner.
Below is the list of Royal Commission in Malaysia held since independence:
1) Royal Commission on Salaries and Conditions of Service of the Public Service (1965)
2) Royal Commission of Inquiry to Investigate the Workings of Local Authorities in West Malaysia (1968)
3) Royal Commission on the Teaching Services (1971)
4) Royal Commission of Inquiry on the collapse of the upper deck of the Pengkalan Sultan Abdul Halim ferry terminal in Butterworth (1988)
5) Royal Commission of Inquiry to investigate a fire at Sekolah Agama Rakyat Taufikah al-Halimah in Padang Lumut, Yan, Kedah (1989)
6) Royal Commission of Inquiry into the fire at the Bright Sparklers factory in Sungai Buloh New Village (1991)
7) Royal Commission to alleged injuries suffered by Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim while in police custody (1999)
8) Royal Commission for Police Reform (2004)
9) Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Lingam Video Clip (2007)
10) Royal Commission of Inquiry into MACC standard operating procedures in questioning and interrogation process (2009)
Public institutions such as the police, the courts and the MACC in the list of Royal Commission of Inquiry shows the grave and serious breaches during Mahathir’s era has yet to recover. Yes, there is Royal Commission and there is reform but what’s the results? Still the same?
Mahathirsm is here to stay for a long time. It is invented by the great, or should I say the greatest Prime Minister of Malaysia we all come to admired of. No matter what Royal Commission, what reform and what 1Malaysia concept, Mahathirism is there to fill the gap in case of doubt and delusion.
I would say we would be better off without Mahathir.
Very much better off.
http://jameslimblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/mahathirism-and-post-mahathir-dilemma.html
Some skeptic might think that police investigation will do to find the truth. That is correct but in this HERO TEOH BENG HOCK ‘murdered’ case, it is more than finding the truth about the death.
The whole world want answers from an open RCI with broad scope of investigations. That I think BNajis can’t afford to face.
TBH is a hero because of his resistant of MACC!
RCI with wider scope is imminent.
If you can remember the erasing of the Immigration records of Atlantuya’s entry into Malaysia and the judge subtlety avoided mentioning of this during the inquest is an indication of how Teoh Beng Huat’s inquest will be.
To my mind the MACC is quilty as hell. The government is obviously protecting them and “you scratch my back and I scratch yours”. This is the in thing between UMNO and these Institutions which includes the Police and judiciary, other tha the MACC. That is UMNO’s trump card to prolong their survival.
As expected, Najib had agreed to form the RCI.
As expected, the RCI to be formed is just a whitewash, a sandiwara. No substance.
Najib had learnt the art of sweet talking and good appearance in public.
Some may be easily fooled by such tactics. Or there may be many who will be hoodwinked ?
Jaswant is right in his 2 postings 23rd July 18:56 and 18:58. The forum to determine cause of death is the inquest; the organisation to investigate whodunnit are the police; the party to accuse and institute the charge to do justice for the family of the victim and society is AGs and the forum to determine guilt with right to defend accorded to the accused are the courts. The RCI determines wider issues of interrogation methods of MACC & whether they violate human rights of those interrogated. This is the right way it ought to be.
However people are not interested in the right way according to the system. This is because a large section of people now perceive there is a systemic breakdown: they don’t trust the impartiality and independence or fairness of MACC or police, the magistrate in an inquest, the AG or the judges in the courts. So they keep on falling back on the RCI which is (hopefully) the last bastion in their perception to garner a measure of impartiality, fairness and independence from the government perceived to be determined to perpetrate and perpetuate all wrongs and injustice.
So it is difficult to discuss or debate what is right and wrong because with the kind of distrust and alienation with the existing institutions – from police, MACC, Public Prosecutor toi the Courts – none is acceptable!
It is a system breakdown. When one talks what is right, it is usually based on what is right within an accepted system.
Here the whole system has been rejected by large swathes of people. So any debate obn what is right or wrong flies out of the window. there is no more framework and or frame of reference with which to debate and argue what is right and wrong within a system because the entire system is perceived wrong and anything goes ie anything over which govt/ruling coalition has the least control will be right! :)
It is very true , Najib = David Copperfield.
What the aggrieved want the RCI to determine is who are the culprits who caused death. This is for justice.
In other words they want the RCI – perceived comparatively more independent – to play multiple roles of police, AG, and Judges/Courts that no more command their confidence and trust. That is all what it is all about here.
None of the RCI above mentioned by Raitman concerned itself with homicide. Probably none in the world too. However here people expect it to do so. Even if it has no such powers/capability to execute all the functions expected of it simulataneously; even if it is unheard of the RCI plays role of investigator, accuser and judge flouting every principle of separation of functions for check and balance.
The system – police, inquest, AG and courts are supposed to play and specialise in separate functions for check and balance and together in combination will yield best results.
But people here say “no” there is no more check and balance, each and all are controlled by central will of UMNO/BN and therefore the system no more works, screw it, we look for something else, anything is better to try.
Such being the previaling sentiments, don’t even try to rationalise and analyse what is right or wrong because as I earlier said, right or wrong in conventional sense benchmarked against a familiar system is no more in vocabulary. Anything that govt cannot control is right – anything that it can, is wrong! Am I not right? :)
//However people are not interested in the right way according to the system. This is because a large section of people now perceive there is a systemic breakdown: they don’t trust the impartiality and independence or fairness of MACC or police, the magistrate in an inquest, the AG or the judges in the courts.//Jeffrey
Stop telling long and irrelevant story. However, people are not…. does the “people” include you. I want you to say it. “Large section of the people” now perceive…. does “large section of the people” include you. I want you to say it, don’t be a hypcrite.
just after a year PR established. ,Power grab in perak, kampung bala puah issue in penang, selangor ADUNs been investicated by MACC, member of PR been killed. and i expected time to time will be tougher for PR until Next GE. PR is like walking in dark jungle now
death of late teoh news is overwrite port klang free zone scandal and 24milion scandal..
Lim Kam Put : if you got nothing meaningful to say here, shut your mouth.
“It is a system breakdown. When one talks what is right, it is usually based on what is right within an accepted system.” (Jeffrey)
Jeffrey,
It seems that Pakatan Rakyat people have lost their confidence in the judicial court (as indicated by the rejection of an inquest into Teoh’s death, over which is to be presided by a magistrate), the Police (as indicated in the questioning of the Police’s impartiality and independence or fairness in the investigation on the cause of Teoh Beng Hock’s death), and the MACC (which is the suspect to be held responsible for Teoh’s death), and the Attorney-General (who is believed to have frequently misused his official power to launch the political persecution upon the Opposition through selective prosecution).
DAP is keen to expand the power of the approved-in-principle and to-be-set-up-soon RCI and to seek power for the RCI to make inquiry into the cause of Teoh’s death. Since Pakatan Rakyat people, including DAP leaders, have no confidence in the government institutions of the BN Federal Government, is it really useful for the Malaysian people to have the RCI looking into the inquest of Teoh’s death?
Even if the RCI is able to find some useful, strong and convincing evidences to prove that the MACC is to be held responsible for the cause of Teoh’s death, what legal authority does the RCI have in order for the RCI to take further action to pursue the follow-up matter of prosecuting the culprit? As Lingam case had shown that the RCI would never have the power or authority within our current legal framework to invoke a prosecution, there would not be much benefit which Pakatan Rakyat could gain at the end of the RCI’s inquisition!
If Pakatan Rakyat is to continue to struggle and fight with Barisan Nasional along a non-violence peaceable line in order to permit Pakatan Rakyat to set a goal for peacefully taking over the control of the Federal Government in the future, then Pakatan Rakyat should at least give some values to the present system which is currently operated by the Barisan Nasional Federal Government. If Pakatan Rakyat cannot even find a trustworthy person among many officers of Federal Government Departments, whether a single magistrate, a single police investigator, a single MACC staff, or a single staff from the office of the Deputy Public Prosecutor, then I really do not know how Pakatan Rakyat is going to run the Federal Government effectively and efficiently in the event that Pakatan Rakyat is to take over the Federal Government from Barisan Nasional someday in the future!
The person or persons behind the calling for the investigation of the opposition assembly members by the malay establishment are the culprits for the death of Mr. Teoh.
Will the RCI going to find out who the culprits are under this kind of narrow guidelines? Mr. Teoh will still be alive if not for this racist investigation.
Does it matter: To have or not to have an RCI that has limited ability to perform
This can inquire, that is out of bound, no Q asked
Just like what we saw during AI’s trial many years ago and the recent C4 AS case
What can we expect when seeking justice involves the police, AG, MACC, judiciary
What can we expect from a kettle with a black ass judging a black pot
Already Selangor Umnoputras are politicising this death into a racial issue and protecting the innocence of the predominantly Malay MACC
No matter which way, the outcome is a forgone conclusion
Better believe the unbelieveable
The only way out is to get more incensed people, young and old, to register as voters to vote the corrupt regime out in the next GE
Imagine there’s someone driving a car, with a passenger at rear seat.
There seems to have no accident but somehow, the passenger died in the car.
Team A will investigate how the car carries the passenger.
Team B will investigate how the passenger died.
Strange but this is what’s happening
The police are not going to truly investigate the cause of Teoh’s death but they are veering in a different direction; that is to show that Teoh is mentally unstable and suicide-prone; that he has ties with criminal elements; and that he has some differences with someone else that cause that person to kill him. Just notice all the people that the police called in. The police are trying leading questions on them and steering them into unrelated matters hoping that they can prove that the MACC did not kill Teoh.
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Onlooker, you said, “if Pakatan Rakyat cannot even find a trustworthy person among many officers of Federal Government Departments, whether a single magistrate, a single police investigator, a single MACC staff, or a single staff from the office of the Deputy Public Prosecutor, then I really do not know how Pakatan Rakyat is going to run the Federal Government effectively and efficiently in the event that Pakatan Rakyat is to take over the Federal Government from Barisan Nasional someday in the future!”
Firstly, I am not sure it is true that Pakatan cannot even find a trustworthy person among many officers. There may be some or many trustworthy officers but one may still distrust the civil service, bureaucracy and institutions if the ruling govt. only puts the few “untrustworthy” amongst them into key positions making decisions in favour of incumbent govt.
Secondly even amongst the many untrustworthy, they may be so by reason of their taking the tone and example from their current political leaders, setting bad examples. So, thereotically speaking, if a change of govt brings in another set of leaders dedicated to good governance – assuming this the case – then many of the rank and file will have the incentive to embrace higher standards.
The spirit of “Datuk” TBH will always be around to protect all those who are summoned by MACC to the office. The murderer(s) will soon be identified. “Datin” Altantuya and “Datuk” Kugan will also be around.
// If Pakatan Rakyat cannot even find a trustworthy person among many officers of Federal Government Departments, whether a single magistrate, a single police investigator, a single MACC staff, or a single staff from the office of the Deputy Public Prosecutor, then I really do not know how Pakatan Rakyat is going to run the Federal Government effectively and efficiently in the event that Pakatan Rakyat is to take over the Federal Government from Barisan Nasional someday in the future!// Onlooker Politics
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First thing first is to replace this rotten BN government. The next thing to do is like eating an elephant; you take one bite at a time. Take South Korea as an example, 40 years ago the country was ruled by corrupt and dictatorial regimes. Today, South Korea is a modern democratic country on par with many western democratic countries.
//I want you to say it. “Large section of the people” now perceive…. does “large section of the people” include you. I want you to say it, don’t be a hypcrite.// – LimKaput
I am a hypocrite if I say that I am included in a “large section of the people” if this “large section of the people” were the likes of you – with perspectives, limited, arguments irrelevant, and a mouth to match, and by consequence an attitude, not much regarded, forever in hope of gaining that attention – by clamours and rude remarks at others whose comments you neither understood nor confuted – which you could not otherwise obtain by reasoned discourse.
Najib has said that he wants “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth” about the causes of Teoh’s death, and if he serious and sincere, let him accede to the wishes of the Teoh family to have a comprehensive RCI into Teoh’s death. – LKS
Najib lied, in fact he know the truth, he is the mastermind, what he have to do now is to hide all the truth from you. Get ready for another round of circus!
I told you guys before,right,that the MACC is a tool set up by NR/Umno/Bn. Now this tool slained someone to death.Its blade is stain with blood.The master/owner of it,is obviously needed to clean it up and use whatever it takes to cover up before the police arrives.The mata mata is another tool which is owned by NR/Umno/Bn,Hence this will not help the people pretty much.Now NR created an new tool,so-called the RCI Inquiry and like LKS said is like a kind of David Copperfield’s illusion. The rakyat can ask,can demand for fair justice and even can appeal for it up to heaven but with the kind of vicious tools NR/Umno/Bn are using to hammer,to hit and to knock ,no opponents of lesser armed would be able to take them on,let alone wishing to win. I think we (rakyat) now should need a much stronger tool “The Political Tsunami Storm” to take head on against our aggressors.This is our only hope through PR in the next GE. In the mean time, let us all be vigilance,patience,recuperate and remain united and when the right time comes, we will deliver the right blow to knock down our opponent(Umno/BN) on to the floor and win by a KO.This is the only option to win and to bring back our lost glory,our lost freedom and democracy.
Anyone under the illusion that the BN government under Najib will tell you the truth should wake up now, or get a brain operation. There will only be lies, lies and more lies!
The inquest is to look into the cause of death, whether it was suicide or homicide. The findings could form the basis of a criminal investigation.
The Royal Commission is to look into Lim Kit Siang’s theory of the flying corpse.
TBH, C4 Atlantuya, Kugan and so many innocent life ended like ABC, do u think RCI or any inquest will help to bring those people back alive? Who is next to be slain? I guess the BN clowns , the Musang IGP , the Najis PM will knoe…. we the rakyat not blind or deaf and definately not brainless, u think u all very good in “wayang kulit” , ur day will come.
“Najib said he would meet with the Teoh family after the outcome of the inquest into Teoh’s death and the Royal Commission of Inquiry. What is the use of meeting the Teoh family when the damage had been done.”
Well, we can never be sure. When Jesus arrived in Bethany, Lazarus had already been dead and in the tomb for four days. When Martha discovered that Jesus was on his way, she went out to meet him. “Lord,” she said, “if you had been here, my brother would not have died.”
Then Jesus said these important words: “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die.”
So let’s believe in Najib for once…. LOL, LOL, hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
First, we must not underestimate Najib’s intelligence. If he is brainless, he will just follow what people say. People say do, he do. But Najib thinks, okay? And after due and careful consideration (thus the delay in announcing his decisions when he got back from overseas), he has finally decided not to have a RCI into the causes of Teoh’s unusual death! Isn’t his decision telling enough? Najib cannot say it directly… he can only tell you through his actions.
“If Pakatan Rakyat cannot even find a trustworthy person among many officers of Federal Government Departments, whether a single magistrate, a single police investigator, a single MACC staff, or a single staff from the office of the Deputy Public Prosecutor, then I really do not know how Pakatan Rakyat is going to run the Federal Government effectively and efficiently in the event that Pakatan Rakyat is to take over the Federal Government from Barisan Nasional someday in the future!” – Onlooker Politics
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Onlooker Politics:
Such a question you are asking shows that you’re still uncharacteristically ignorant or sleeping. It’s not for the Pakatan to choose who they want to be appointed on any committees. They don’t have the power to do so. There are many in the civil service and legislature who are capable for the job but as past cases goes, the government tends to appoint junior judges to take over important cases. Some examples: the sacking of Salleh Abbas and 5 senior judges, Anwar Ibrahim cases, the Perak state government grabbing case and many others. Even when there are some judges who are conscientious and brave enough to go against the government’s wish they will always find that their judgement will be overturned by the Appeal or Federal Courts.
The hold of the government over the level of powers is so complete and total that it has always abuse the trust of the people. This is an evil, corrupt and unconscionable government that chooses to go against the grain of what is right, just and proper. The only way to deal with it is to vote it out.
I think the RCI should comprise of distinguished members like DPM Muhyiddin, Cabinet Clown Nazri, IGP Musa, MACC Said and add one or 2 more UMNO MPs for size.
RCI findings would be unanimous. The public should accept such a distinguished and impartial, even elegant composition.
Najib has said that he wants “the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth”.
Surely we can believe NAJIB. CORRECT, CORRECT, CORRECT!
BTW, Muhyiddin says “AP won’t last forever”. Not very clever statement. Forever can mean another 50 years!
Typical barrage from a 7-year old, taught to ask smart questions:
“Why?”
“What is the rationale for continuing the AP?”
“When?”
“Who – who is benefitting from APs?”
“How – how are APs allocated?”
“Where – where can a 7-year old get some? I want to give my daddy some as a birthday present.”
Can Najib constitute an RCI to investigate MACC for corruption and conspiracy?
Think Najib should grab the bull by the horns or the balls, whichever hurts most. MACC is as recalcitrant a bull as any and needs to be castrated lest the bull sires more bull-ies.
uncle Kit
u should counsel the family not to instigate them…
To be honest, this is going to turn out badly. I see another Ops Lalang happening very soon. UMNO/BN is bend on racialising this thing and then invoke ISA to put everyone into jail
But this time, Najib the intellectual peon will learn why he is a prodigal son because he will get it all wrong. He will see the people’s rage when he does it.
This is going to get very very bad. And its still going to be worth it…
Najib is a liar. And he better think 100 times before putting into motion any operation that resembles ops lalang or that may instigate the umno orchestrated may 13 incident. This is now 2009. People’s expectations are different. People’s outlook is different. People’s intelligence (although suppressed by umno’s (-)meritocracy system) is better. Umno is using its papers to fan the fire. They are doing so by relating every action and response by the people esp by the opposition to race.
Former Law minister, Datuk Zaid Ibrahim has hit out at BN. What the people on street may not carry that much weight to BN and they may just laugh at what we have said so far. But they simply just can not ignore a man like Zaid Ibrahim who know exactly how BN works.
There is no point of just talk and this again another opportunity for reform. But. sad to say, the political will is too weak after so many years of siting in comfort abusing all the system available to them.
What Zaid said is a reflection of the general public feeling. What he said is not new but an affirmation on what the public perfection on another cover out.
The question is very simple in need. If and only if, you have nothing to hide, what then since you have agreed on RCI, WHY its that so difficult to insert another term of reference to determine the cause of Teoh’s dead ? But you ask a magistrate to do it under the inquest parameters?
That was simple question hanging over the heads of all concern Malaysian.
If and only if, as what MACC has said, they have nothing to cover, why then they did not insist on RCI to clear their names?
BN found themselve body with shit.
if MACC,BN believe teoh death is nothing to do with them. and even said he is suicide.
why najib so nice call his polical secretary to pay last respect to teoh and najib willing to meet teoh family after RCI investicated. in this country so many people were suicided and even rape and murder case. i never see najib BN show thier sympathy to these victim.
Najib celebrated his 56th birthday on 24/7/09 but it would appear that he has “wasted” 56 years of his life by refusing to the formation of a RCI to investigate the death of Beng Hock! This shows how wise our PM is! He is still in his INFANT stage!
This is another “typical” case of “What Should Be” will not be!
“Logic” or “Rightfulness” are NOT in UNMO/BN’s Brains!
Is a Deer a Horse?
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The Push for RCI is a logical and Rightful procedures even if NOT being asked as there is no Governing Body over MACC for investigating MACC!
The Differences of “What should be” and “Not to be Provided” when putting together will help People to see how “BIAS” or “Twisting” the UNMO/BN ruler and their cronies are Operating and Running this country as their “own pockets”.
NO Reasonable minded Malaysian will expect this Crony Government to be sincere to “Find” out the Truth as they already know the “Truth” which they understand they are the one in DEEP faults. Or, why said otherwise, when they have obligations to let the Truth be
investigated through ALL MEANS and NOT through the Means that they CAN & HAD MANIPULATED!!
Right in Front of Every Malaysian, NJ is playing “The King with his NEW CLOTHES”!!
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A RCI with the Right Panel, recommended by PK and the Right Scope of Investigating should be demanded. The more Twisted counter offer are going to be NJ’s “King with his NEW Clothes”!
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SHAMES when every Literate person can put NO MORE Trust on the POLICE/AG and COURT. What can the Government wear to show the People?
Lim/DAP/All that visited this blog,
I totally appalled by the fact Malaysia has turn into this state of no return.
I voted DAP in last election and will vote for them again. The reasons are very clear as most of us complain about Umno, BN, MCA, MIC, gerakan, Najib, Badawi, Mahathir for everything they did to us. The way they treat rakyat is unbelievable!
Why then, they are still in power if most of us know they are crooks.
Reasons: There is no other leader that can fill the space if BN tumbled. For one, Anwar is far away from being a good and effective leader. He can’t even control his own party’s members, let alone Pakatan parties or the whole country. Look at the mess he created when he lauded for frog jumping. Although, some of his members are good sincere and doing excellent to Rakyat but most of his crews are all sitting on the fence waiting for someone to push them over. All have different personal goals. How can one allow them to govern the country. Yes, mind you it is to govern a country not party nor states.
2. DAP is great but do you think majority of Malay goes for a Chinese leader? Try not to compare M’sia and US. There is no way to compare these countries. M’sian mindset is still way behind. If DAP wants to lead, then the party needs to have more members from different ethic background, more groups that represent different ethics. Till now, most Malays still see DAP is chinese/indian party only. DAP needs to change strategies and structures so they can change how they are being viewed.
3. PAS on one hand is “we” as in general will not accept their leadership. They are TOO leftist or rightist (depending which way you look at). There are TOO many hidden agenda behind the party curtain. TOO many issues that general M’sia (Malay, Chinese, Indian…) will not able to accept. TOO many ideologies that will bring Malaysia to a standstill and TOO many ridiculous regulations/laws that will collapse the entire Malaysia economy.
Well, who else that can turn M’sia around?
We can complain all we want now but if we do not have a clear strategies how to handle the next elections, we as rakyat will continue to suffer.
Ummm, or shall we wait for a new 4th party that will sweep all parties as in “The Romance of Three Kingdom”?
I would strongly suggest Pakatan create a internal and external (open to public) elections to find out what rakyat wants and who will be the real, NEW suitable leader that can glue all parties together and be acceptable by all M’sian. I don’t know but maybe we can really find a great leader from the haystack.
Until then, god bless us all.
Najib, a young man in the prime of his life has been killed. His parents have lost a son. His fiance has lost a husband. His unborn child has lost a father. Please do not insult his memory with this charade. If you cannot do the decent thing to find out the truth (or want to find out the truth), please do not try to spin a story for his parents and make use of them to justify your sleight of hand. It is the lowest thing you can do.
As for Teoh’s parents, my suggestion is to snub him and refuse to see him if the RCI is not to investigate the truth of Teoh’s death. It is a waste of time. Do not give legitimacy to his manipulations. You owe this much to your son’s memory.
How many people has died and went missing went Najis took over as the PM?
Don’t forget Najis is from the military and it is better to kill wrongly than let go any chance.
The reason why they don’t want RCI to be involved in TBH death might be clear that it will tarnish the Police credibility, therefore let the police do their job to proof first.
No doubt police forces has bad image but why not give them a chance.
Dear YB Lim
As you write the letter, may I suggest that you remind our good old PM that he must be willing to allocate time to see Teoh’s loved ones, since he had so much time for a bogus sodomy victim?
Thank you
To the family of Teoh,
If and when you meet with Najib, focus on the demand to have a comprehensive RCI into Teoh’s death. Let Najib says whatever he wants but you must not digress or compromise from the demand of RCI into Teoh’s death.
Najib is a two faced hypocrite. that’s what he is.
someone should start a online petition to reject his 1malaysia crap.
Saw a MTV the other day promoting this crap where he and a bunch of people raising their forefingers. I’d raise a finger too but it’s going to be the middle finger.
NR is the biggest conman in the country now. There’s just too much BS coming from him since he took over. This RCI is another con job.
which m*ron’s dirty hands started this blog???
Truth for Teoh Beng Hock
http://www.t4tbh.blogspot.com
those so-called-evidences of DAP’s “corruption modus” can be done with anyone that has Microsoft Excel, a printer and a scanner!
YB Lim… please do not let these ppl crush DAP & PR!!!
When call up by the police to give statement, it is a standard procedure that after statement was taken, officer will ask us to read thru thoroughly prior to signing. Thereafter we are free to go.
MACC claimed they have released TBH at 345am but where was the document signed by TBH after statement taken?! If no signature mean TBH still in MACC custody and MACC is fully responsible for his safety.
Why his hp still with MACC after ‘being released’?! MACC needed more than 10 hrs to investigate hp records?!
Please dont think rakyat Malaysia are bunch of fools like MACC.
We shall not let Murders and Killers in the highest institutions escape just like that.
These creatures are worst than terrorists harassing and killing lives of innocent Malaysians.
Najib shall ensure thorough investigation of TBH death in MACC failure which we RAKYAT MALAYSIA shall ensure Najib and MACC go down with Beng Hock!
americangirl suggests Microsoft Excel
The file Exif data has been added by Picasa, but there’s also an empty ‘Photoshop 3.0’ 8BIM section visible in a hexdump. Perhaps someone with some Adobe products could confirm. I don’t use them.