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Terrible price being paid by Malaysians for Abdullah’s failure to establish IPCMC

Two ghastly news within 24 hours –the robbery-cum-murder of Thor Joo Lee, wife of former Penang State Assemblyman for Bukit Tambun, Lai Chew Hock at her Tambun Indah house in Penang and the robbery of Datin Chang Lee Lee, wife of former Penang Exco and Pulau Tikus Assemblyman Datuk Dr. Teng Hock Nan in her Jalan Tunku Abdul Rahman house in Penang.

These two cases of robbery (and one murder) of the wife of two former Penang Assemblymen are horrible reminders of the terrible costs being paid by Malaysians for the failure by the Prime Minister, Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to heed the important recommendation of the Police Royal Commission to establish the Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission (IPCMC) to create an efficient, professional and world-class police service to keep crime low in the country.

As a result, it has become an important factor why Malaysia is losing out in the international competiveness stakes to other countries in attracting foreign investment as low crime, personal safety and security of property always rank as one of the top considerations for any foreign investor in the important decision-making process whether to invest in a country or not.

I have no doubt that Malaysia would have broken the back of the worsening crime problem if the IPCMC had been fully accepted and started functioning from May 2006 as recommended by the Royal Police Commission, making Malaysia a safe haven not only for Malaysian citizens, but also for investors and tourists.

Abdullah has failed as Home Minister for eight years from 2001-2008 as he presided over a worsening crime situation in the country with Malaysians, investors and tourists unable to feel safe whether in the streets, public places or in the privacy of their homes.

The current Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar is also heading for another dismal failure as a Home Minister as he has not been able to inspire public confidence that his No. 1 responsibility is to reverse the rising tide of the crime index in the past decade to make Malaysia a safe country for her citizens, investors and tourists.

In his more than six months as Home Minister, Hamid has shown that he has a completely misplaced sense of priorities, misusing and abusing his powers whether under the Internal Security Act or in threatening newspapers with show cause notices.

After the Barisan Nasional’s “thrashing” in the March 8 general election, Abdullah had pledged to implement his many abandoned reform programmes, one of which is police reform and the establishment of the IPCMC.

There have been no signs in the past six months that the government is prepared to present in Parliament an urgent bill to set up the IPCMC without any delay.

Abdullah seems to be totally overwhelmed by the battle to fight for his political life instead of making life safe and a quality one for Malaysians, tourists and investors.

Malaysians have a right to demand that Abdullah and Hamid stop dilly-dallying and be serious about the intolerable state of rampant crime in the country, jeopardising the security of Malaysians and frightening away tourists and investors to Malaysia.

Let Malaysians get a clear-cut and forthright answer from Abdullah and Hamid – are they going to honour the pledge to establish the IPCMC immediately without any further delay?

Or is the IPCMC dead so long as there is a Barisan Nasional government and the only way an IPCMC could be established is to have a Pakatan Rakyat federal government?

144 Replies to “Terrible price being paid by Malaysians for Abdullah’s failure to establish IPCMC”

  1. Penang government may have to start their own police force. Current Polis Di Rajah are too busy in ISA and sodomy fabrication (not investigation), thus they have no time to protect the people and let the robbers and criminals be on the loose.

  2. Greetings!

    “Police are agents or agencies, usually of the executive, empowered to enforce the law and to effect public and social order through the legitimatized use of force”

    Unfortunately, Malaysian polices were often busy entertain BN or the government. Shame.

    Free RPK & Other detainees… Abolished ISA

  3. They need absolute power, IPCMC is going to be one department which will be in their way, thus the safety of the public is scarcely touched, their work is mostly on how to stop an opposition operation and the voice of the people.

  4. Had this occured in japan, the jap finance minister would had disembowelled himself

    Malaysia’s foreign direct investment outflows surpassed inflows last year. According to the 2008 United Nations Conference on Trade and Development World Investment Report, outflows surged by 82 per cent from 2006 to RM38 billion compared to inflows of RM29 billion, up 39 per cent.

    While Malaysia moved one place to sixth in terms of inflows among South, East and Southeast Asian countries, its global rank dropped from 67 to 71.

  5. Malaysians have given up on the PM and his band of merry men. The country is wallowing in crimes because the police is much too occupied in politics. When it comes to persecuting the innocents, they really pull out all stops to please their political master. Now YBs and ex-YBs are not even safe from criminals who are hell-bend to cause the most personal damage. Sarawak’s deputy CM house was broken into in spite of electronic gagets, security guards and imported guard dogs. So how safe are we ordinary folks? Just two weeks ago, a young Japanese volunteer who just arrived in Kuching a day before was robbed and knifed repeatedly in broad daylight in the street and his personal effects taken. As usual, no one was arrested for the horrific crime. People have given up on the government and the police to provide even the most basic security.

  8. If one were to weigh political advantage/disadvantage against the costs to the public, of course the former would prevail. This is malaysia we are talking about.

    But for the life of me I just cannot see what political advantage could be had by maintaining an inefficient and corrupt police force; or what policital disadvantage could be suffered for that matter.

    Perhaps, corrupt officers are easy to control.

    From education to economy to public safety – across the board umno has failed.

  9. People who fight for their rights will be detained under ISA as national threats but murderers, snatch thieves and robbers who are the real threats to the public but surprising in Bolehland they are considered the VIPs. They can move around freely.

  12. This country is a hopeless nation now. My house was broke in 2 months ago and we reported the case. 4 policemen came but nothing much was done, just did a simple report and did not bother to walk around the neighborhood to investigate further. 2 days later we found a piece of window class with fingerprints and we called them to collect it for further investigation.Guess what ?He replied, Saya ada banyak kes sini dan tengah sibuk, boleh saya call balik? Then the line went dead and never call back again.

    16th Sep came and gone and the Change did not happen, now we don’t know what is going to come next, we have uncertainty, the economy is so shitty, inflation is so high, pay scale is so low, we have so many vss (retrenchment) in Penang, factories now hire more foreigners than locals, contract out and pay lower instead of hiring permanent staff. Petrol price hike up and I don’t think it will ever go down to RM2/litre again, people are finding so hard to cope and make ends meet. Crime rates will continue to rise. Wonder who can help us?

    What is the govt doing? They are just busy quarreling fighting for their own survival. Is coming to 7 months since the election, I have not seen much improvement in Penang. It’s sad, I wake up every morning reading the newspaper & Malaysiakini and start cursing!

  15. We will never achieve a proper police force as long as they are subservient to BN. The police should be an independent body to maintain security for ALL. As usual, BN has turned it around to be its lapdog to the detriment of our society. Everywhere you go, you will see gated neighbourhoods or security personnel patrolling our housing estates, mostly paid for by the residents themselves. Why must this be so? What’s the use of the police then?

    The Pm has failed his people miserably. In other countries, he would have had the honour to quit.

  17. Probably the reason why the robbers and thieves are posing an increasing threat to our property and safety,it is because they take the cue from Unnoputras and the like who keep on plundering and walloping the national wealth through corruption and abuse of power.The difference is the robbers act illegally and the Umnoputras act hypocritically.

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  21. As long as Abdullah stays in power, the hope of establishing the Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission (IPCMC) will remain a dream. This is because Abdullah knows that once the IPCMC is formed he will lose a “powerful weapon” to deal with voices of dissent coming from the Opposition party (the police in Malaysia unfortunately is politically partisan and align themselves with the ruling BN coalition). In efforts to protect his position by not implementing the IPCMC, Abdullah has not only caused crime situations in the country to worsen but also dented the people and investors confidence in the police.

    Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar, is so preoccupied with issuing threats to Opposition MPs and media commentators that he should be assigned the post of Minister of Threats Prevention and give his Home Minister post to a more competent person.

  22. The cancer of CORRUPTION is the basic reason why the IPCMC cannot be implemented.

    Unfortunately the cancer has reached so many aspects of government at high levels it would be a mammoth task even for PAKATAN to eliminate without disrupting the well-being of the patient – it’s going to be very painful for all.

    IPCMC is a common feature in my blog so go there if you want to read more.

  23. This incident occured to me on 31 Dec 2007 in Jalan Yap Kwan Seng.
    I was walking out of my office at about 8pm when I felt something hit me from behind. Before I could figure out what it was I could feel that my laptop was being pulled away. I held on tight to it and the thief being alone on his motorcycle had to let go of it. I was lucky as he did on drag me along the road.
    This happened by the pavement of Ambank and when I highlighted this matter to the police who were stationed at the check point in front of the Australian High Commission, all they said was…’Just be careful next time!!’…gee..thanks officers!!
    Funny that extra policemen were placed on the road to mann the traffic on new year’s eve yet the thief got away.
    What saddened me most was that there were at least half a dozen people who witnessed this incident and none came forward to ask me if I was ok.

  24. Is this what freedom is all about? How much more to pay?
    Pls keep in prayer and REMEMBER…Don’t ever forget..
    Raja Petra. He set the ball in motion for all of us.

    Marina : “He told me, ‘Please tell them not to forget me’,
    Just remember Raja Petra said this
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra.
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra.
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra.
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra.
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra.
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra.
    “Do not forget Me” – Raja Petra

    “DO NOT FORGET ME” Raja Petra.

  27. When talk about the failure of police, I have tons of complaints.

    My family is running plam oil estate in Sabah Kunak under small holder scheme about 15years back. Last year, there was a bumi company suddenly pop out from middle of no where and claim they own the land with land title. Total 79 small holders including ethnic of Chinese, Orang Asli and Malay are affected. This company employ a gang of thugs holding samurai knife, hammer, axe and even short gun. They block all the road and stop us from entering our own estate. We went to see police, you guess what the police told us? “itu tanah engkau, you perlu jaga harta benda sendiri” What the heck? After some wang minum kopi with the head of police, finally he told us the man behind the bumi company is very “geng”, he has received instruction not to do anything.

    In order to get back our belonging, we form a committee and decided to engage a lawyer apply for court restraining order. With big sum of lawyer fee paid, we manage to get the restraining order. But problem resurface again, showing restraining order to those thugs is simply useless, they just not giving it a damn. Showing to police is useless too, since they got instruction not to do anything. We have brought this case to ACA, papers have reported this few months back but then until today, nothing has been delivered yet. Wondering why ACA can be so efficient on the Perak Exco members corruption case but not us which has been filed long time ago???

    Mr Lim, I aware that DAP has won state seat in Tawau, wondering can you help to do anything on this? All of the 79 small holders and their family members will be very much appreciated if DAP able to help. I am a full supporter of PR, BN simply hopeless. Pls get control of Malaysia as soon as you can.

  28. “..Let Malaysians get a clear-cut and forthright answer from Abdullah and Hamid – are they going to honour the pledge to establish the IPCMC immediately without any further delay?..”

    YB Lim, it will never happen. You want to know why? Because they need the PDRM to help them to remain in power. They need the PDRM to make those ISA arrests to stifle or frustrate any attempt to topple them from power. They need them to do the strong arm dirty hatchet men job to silence all critics. They need them to protect their manipulations. The recent ISA arrests are clear illustrations of this evil cooperation.

    All these has been clearly made known to the UMNO leaders by the PDRM when the IPCMC was about to be implemented. And now in their weakened state, UMNO leaders need the PDRM even more, much more.

  29. When you see a policeman what sort of image and impression pops up in your mind nowadays?

    Sometimes I see almost on a daily basis traffic cops “directing” traffic behind corners instead of easing the traffic flow openly as should be. I also notice different groups of traffic cops doing the “directing”. Ironically there is a big police station just a stone throw away.

    Where I am staying we are in the process of gating our community as we fear for our safety. Mind you we are having a private security firm to patrol our taman presently and that is not good enough to deter would be criminals. Nowadays the criminals are armed with guns not just parangs or knives just to hijack your ordinary types of cars. Sometimes I feel like a prisoner in my own house!

    Lastly dont forget RPK who has done so much to open our eyes and minds to the happenings in the corridors of power.

  30. I fully support the establishment of IPCMC for Malaysia, but remain unconvinced it could solve the problem at the root of ineffective policing here.

    It must be almost impossible for a Malaysian policeman to do their job, given the multitude of potentially applicable law, mustn’t it? How can they do their job when there’s a chance they might end up on the wrong end of a ‘subversive act’, or end up in a tussle over jurisdiction if they go ‘brown on brown’? Even for some ‘safe’ offence like speeding, they must be in great doubt that the obviously guilty party will ever feel the effect of a penalty. Why not just collect some sponsorship for their kids’ toys in that case? At least their kids will benefit…

    Easy to blame the police. I suspect if I was a Malaysian policeman, I’d have a really beautiful garden in front of my station too. I’m sorry, when I first came to Malaysia, the extensive and immaculate police station gardens did make me laugh out loud.

  32. We are interested to see how will PM react when his beloved wife is robbed.

    Now, the botak is telling Murugiah to mind his own business. He should be gratefull and appreciative of this highlight of the poor state of affairs within his ministry. His arrogance will hasten the downfall of UMNO. It will be nice to let him get a taste of food at RM4.50 per day. May be then, he will shut his big mouth!

  33. The main reason why [deleted] has managed to remain in power for so long is simple: power comes from the barrel of a gun.

    without the police and the military threat of shooting civilians who oppose the govt, i believe that Malaysians would have been able to overthrow the present regime a long time ago. do you think our weak and useless leaders can withstand the kind of protest faced by the thai govt? they would’ve buckled under that kind of pressure a long time ago.

    so the question is, why do the bodies with guns i.e. police and military throw their weight behind bn? can the opposition take that away from them?

  35. S.O.S
    Malaysians are the endangered beings.Their living enviroment is polluted by ‘insecurity’ air,’steal’ water,’imbalance’ food,’depressed mood and lack of good ‘exercise’
    TUAN ALLAH, GOD, BUDDHA please have mercy.HELP!

  36. k1980 Says:

    Today at 11: 02.23 (13 minutes ago)
    Anti-Monarchy, the snatch thief might have been one of the off-duty mata-mata doing his second job to keep up with the rising cost of living
    ………………………………………………………………………………
    Yes, yes..now it makes sense!! Maybe a full time UTK officer.Thanks

    P/s:
    Try going to a police station to lodge a report, chances are you might regret it.

    I went once to the police station ( a stone’s throw away from my residence) to report about a cab driver who did not use the meter, was abusive and even threatened to beat me up. All the officer told me was… ‘Ala..India sama India selesai sajalah!!!’
    I know it was nothing major and no harm was done to me but the mere treatment given to me made me think that these officers do not deserve to be in their uniform!!

  38. Incidents of snatch thefts and armed robbery on individuals are now commonplace. I witnessed a heist two weeks ago on an elderly man just outside his house at 7 in the morning by a brazen young robber on a motor cycle who displayed a knife. The man did not want to make a police report. Neither did a friend’s wife who had her bag snatched from her car. Nor did I when a burglar broke into my house. Unless important documents are lost or injuries are suffered, victims usually do not report the crime. That is how much faith we have in our law enforcers to help us. I shudder to think how much worse the security situation will be if a deep recession hits the economy. IPCMC? That is another shelved project by Abdullah.

  39. “But for the life of me I just cannot see what political advantage could be had by maintaining an inefficient and corrupt police force; or what policital disadvantage could be suffered for that matter.” -taiking

    A corrupt police force is good for serving the political agenda of the ruling regime. With an uncorrupted police force, there will be no Sodomy I or Sodomy II and racists making provocative statements will be hauled in whether they are from Umno or not.

    See how much police resources and manpower utilized to conduct the imaginary sodomy II to obtain “justice” for the imaginary violation of one person’s anus when such resources could have been used to fight real crime.

    There’s certainly huge political advantage in keeping the police force corrupt and compliant but unfortunately, this also debilitates their crime fighting ability and hence we are seeing an upsurge in crime.

  41. helpless Says:

    Today at 09: 21.14 (2 hours ago)
    Check on the scorecard.

    Fight corruption – fail terribly.

    Reduce poverty – fail terribly

    Improve security – fail terribly

    Improve living standard – fail terribly

    Any area with passing mark ?

    Yes, there are.

    Improve safety of writer/journalist/blogger – success (detained them under ISA)

  42. With a race based government policy and a party bias police force, how do you expect the world to respect the government or feel safe coming here.

    A victim normally got harassed when you go to make most police reports and police mostly came half and hour or more at house breakin calls for immediate help.

    Most break-ins are done by illegal Indonesians.

  43. Negligence Govern target development to create job opportunity by selling off Nation…

    quote:
    “What goes around, comes around.”

    * Corruption cum poverty…
    * Poverty cum roberies…
    * Robery cum crimes…
    * Crimes cum criminals…
    * Criminals cum death…
    * Death cum victims…
    * Victims includes nepotism cum tycoon…

    The corruption generated poverty, everyone is obliged to live in this cruel society would have to risk their own life’s walking on the streets or at home, regardless who you are.

    Starving crooks had no mercy as materialistic society had no mercy. Thanks to bunch of dictate governs(BN) who’s corrupted opportunist(components) as extortionist who robbed the Rakyat!

  45. I doubt the establishment of IPCMC would break “the back of the worsening crime problem”.

    The rampant crime is caused by socio-economic factors exacerbated in no small way by endemic systemic corruption at all levels.

    Unless corruption and the related socio-economic factors were addressed, along with increasing the numbers of policemen with discipline and enhancing better co-ordination and administration of the various departments and resources of PDRM, rampant crime and lawlessness will continue and even increase, aggravated by economic slowdown.

    If you tell PM Abdullah that he is too “overwhelmed by the battle to fight for his political life instead of making life safe and a quality one for Malaysians, tourists and investors”, he would turn around and tell Pakatan Rakyat & Anwar to stop threatening his administration with the takeover by crossovers and bothering him with request to convene special emergency parliament session for vote of no confidence on himself that he would have the peace of mind to concentrate on tackling the worsening crime problem.

  47. 25.9.08 news: Syed Hamid Albar told T. Murugiah to shut up, to mind his own business, and to stop interfere in the affairs of another ministry.

    Syed Hamid Albar said Murugiah’s action in speaking on behalf of Seputeh MP Teresa Kok on complaints she was not served proper meals while in detention was akin to being a spokesman for the Opposition.

    “What he has done is not right. I hope he knows how to look after his own turf. He should not interfere in other people’s affairs. That is not his work.”

    Wow!! Cocky guy!

    Truth cannot be exposed or discussed because it only affects the opposition! What kind of principle is this?

  49. Syed Hamid’s broadside to T.Murugiah is yet another eloquent demonstration of how powerless the component parties are with respect to Umno.

    They are expected to remain subservient lapdogs. Once they dare to speak up, their Umno masters give them a swift kick and they slink off quietly into the corner.

    Will be hear Murugiah replying to Hamid’s verbal kick? Don’t hold your breath as there’s not a chance of it happening.

  50. A lot of other factors involved, can’t bank on police force only. For eg. the immigration dept. Whether there is a mechanism to recall those overstayed foreigners and whether foreigners of identified countries who come into Malaysia to have a guarantor or some cash deposit. Failing to return to their own country shall have the guarantor penalised or money confisticated. Of course, this is one suggestion if the cause of crime arises from foreigners.

  51. A story goes:

    Ah Chong made an “illegal” U-turn in front of an ill-designed traffic light. Barely 10 away, a cop jumped out from the bush and flagged Ah Chong down.

    Cop: “Didn’t you see the No U-turn sign?”

    Ah Chong: “Yes, I did see the No U-turn sign. But I didn’t see U!”

  54. These component parties are just lap dogs. See.. how our Murugiah got whipped by our baldie toad. They just whine …like dogs and then “dudok diam diam” afterwards.
    As I have said, just a bunch of spineless selfish bums trying to protect and display fairness to the community. Pooorah…

    Where got time to protect the rakyat when our so called “efficient” police are so very busy protecting their political masters.
    Sleepy flipflop lame duck has lost all his teeth already long time ago. He can only just m..umble when he talk and what is worst is not only NOBODY listens to him but also unable to comprehend what he is talking about.
    He is now talking like somebody with a c**k in his mouth. Pardon me for insinuating as there is no better words to describe this “GREAT” man.

  56. Politics and economy have an impact to these sort of crimes.

    Should the Finance Minister and Home Minister, both former and present ones, be made answerable?

    These criminals are doing what they are doing now because times are bad and when they think of doing something bad to make ends meet, they may actually find that it is not difficult and there seemed to be a lack of deterrents.

    The Ministers should not wait till their love ones get robbed and fallen victims to wake up from near hybernate mode.

  57. With the dozens of bodyguards around him at all times of the day, how can the PM become a victim of criminals? If I have 1% of the number of his bodyguards, I will sleep with the front door of my house left open at night!

  58. Botak Syed Hamid got all his priorities wrong. Malaysians are now questioning, whether he is up to the job which demands integrity and honesty.
    Recent events abusing the use of ISA confirmed and revealed more his stupidity and plain playing politics. To top it all, we have an IGP not doing his job professionally, only just serving his political masters.
    The losers are the rakyat.

  59. So far PM AAB and his extended family have not faced the problems, at least when AAB is still in power. AAB faces a dilemma too. If he approved IPCMC, he might not be in power, and might have the family faces the same crimes. Of course before the 308 election, he was talking about serving beyond 2020, and could be sure of security for another decade. Now that he might not remain in Putrajaya beyond October, it would be too late to even approve IPCMC.

    The right motto is to serve public interest rather than his own. TDM might have another snippet for him on this.

  60. Further to what Mendela posted, JAKIM, working hand in hand with the police, is carrying out a programme of “religious rehabilitation” of muslim detainees including RPK to so called enable their “faster release”.

    It will be recalled that Revathi Masoosai (one of the conversion cases) was required to stay in a religious rehabilitation centre for renouncing Islam in favour of Hinduism. (Revathi subsequently accused Islamic religious police of mental torture and intimidation during her detention, where the centre “tried to make her pray as a Muslim, wear a head scarf and eat beef”).

    It will be interesting to see what happens in RPK’s case.

    Firstly RPK is not a hindu (though he may find his Hindu detainee/Hindraf’s friends there; RPK prides himself that he is interpreting the faith according to principles of Islam Haddari or civilisational Islam as espoused by the PM; he said in one of his last posting in MT that police interrogators admitted that his postings were not insulting to Islam but were too intellectual to be understood by the masses, angered by them. (So he was detained under ISA because he angered people who were not intellectual enough to understand what he wrote)

    Secondly, in Kamunting there are all kinds of alleged Islamic extremists also detained under ISA, some of them alleged to be master mind of Bali bombing, and members of various cells and orgainsations like Darul Islam Sabah, JI etc.

    So it is not certain at this juncture who would rehabilitate who : the Islamic authorities, RPK or the other way around, and what about the other alleged Islamic extremists, will they be rehabilitated as well?

  61. speaking of recently penang news, and not long ago just right outside pinang airport also kena robbed not once, but twice! does lge have to depend on federal for penangnites safety ? why cannot lge and their “exco” set up better security in penang instead putting blame on ipcmc, they are penang gov and penang is under their administration!

    and what other lge progress since the so-called tsunami ?
    1) funding of the 2nd bridge stall coz have to depend on federal.
    2) nikko factory closed down and a korean firm cabut to filipina.
    3) digging on previous ktk dirt (and even set up stupid debate) instead moving forward.
    4) using state fund for “community” magazine/propaganda instead of some other development
    5) more flash flood in penang, and all lge can do is lending shoulder to cry on and depend federal instead come out their own solution.

    and now they have this “brilliant” idea setting up cctv on the island (you got camera at airport too, and why it still kena robbed not once but twice!) …..

  63. ///“What he has done is not right. I hope he knows how to look after his own turf. He should not interfere in other people’s affairs. That is not his work.”///–Syed Hamid

    The statment shows the he considers the ministries are carved out as difference sphere of power, inflence, and sources of wealth. He certainly does not understand the function of the Cabinet, and much less about the working of the coalition party. So to Syed Hamid, MIC does not have a say about the policies and implementation of BN government, and much less to comment on his ministries which have been given to him as though he had tendered it for his exclusive control.

    That is the calibre of BN ministers. The man has been a foreign ministers, and supposedly has been exposed to the outside world, his thought process confirms that he belongs to a protected specis, and he requires special care like an aids patient.

  64. Dear All,

    We should give the PDRM a fair and impartial comment as I believe they have been fighting very hard bringing down the crime rate index on a year to year basis. We may have noted that crime rate on serious crime reported last year went down vis-a-vis corresponding period 2006. While there are much room for improvements but we should be reminded that civilians are to play their respective roles as well towards a safer Malaysia. The police could not physically be present everywhere and everytime a crime takes place. For example, a friend of mine was robbed in PJ several days ago and the number which he immediately dialled on his handphone was 999 lest that he realized the number he should call for SOS using handphone is 112. He couldn’t get the police on his handphone and started blaming the network provider. For his case, I would have said that my friend should at least know the SOS number or the contact number of the nearest police station. One must realize that all contact number of every police station is clearly painted on the wall. What we need to do is to take the trouble of taking down the numbers and bear in mind to call the police station which is proximate to the crime scene. Have we ever taken this trouble to enlighten ourselves? While we should adopt self educating ourselves the police or the appropriate authorities should also expand their efforts in educating the public.

  65. BN Government wasting public fund to form all sort of “SURUHAN JAYA DIRAJA” to the formation of IPCMC but no further action taken so far by the BN Government until CRIMINALS “took action” against public.

    All those well known victims so far are from BN (former ADUN families) themselves. What are you waiting for GERAKAN Party – Pull out of BN Now!!!!

  66. So now BNed, you may go ahead continue “Corrupt and Robbed” the nation. Remember we’re living under the same roof! We kena soon you kena also! And those who supporting crooks comes with a price, unless u ISA’d your childrens and family for police protection! SYED HAMID and cronies! MCA/Gerakan This Is just the begining of nightmare!

    THANKS TO PERPETRATOR LIKE YOU GUYS!

  67. Melurian, who collect the most tax? if state govt no depend on fed govt for big project/allocation. Can state govt ask rakyat and big companies not to pay taxes to fed govt, but pay to state govt??
    Can fed govt ‘kuasa’ these to state govt, like police force, education, immigration, arm forces, highway concessionary taxes, custom & excise taxes, health services, etc?

  68. Mr Lim, its no point in we beating our chest about the failure of pak lah and failure of albar and the failure of police . As long as umno is there, its going to be a failure all the way. Please get down as fast as possible and change the whole machinary.Waste no second.The whole nation is looking up to you and anwar to change our children’s destiny.The way crime is going about. dont be surprised if one of these days the robbers walk fearlessly into your master bedroom and helps himself knowing fully well that police wont catch him.

  69. when he took over as home minister, we already knew nothing’s gonna change, we need someone from our side, to be the home minister, to really ensure this nation to be crime free, go ahead YB, take charge, we’re behind you all the way.

  71. The rakyat do not see the point of doing away with the commission whose objective is to improve the force. Why would one object the set-up of an entity if the objective of the said entity is to assist as well as improving the force.

    Perhaps one of the areas which the force is lacking in is process efficiency such as distribution of work loads which led to one possible resulting outcome which is the frequently-used but not new reason (or shall I rightly call excuse) – “the field force/surveillance team is short in manpower. I am not even discussing the point of possible conflict of interest.

    Although maybe a bit of off-topic, I would like to relate my personal experience. This incident happened on Monday, 22 Sep 2008 about 7pm along LDP from PJ/Damansara (to be precise next to Kelana Jaya LRT station) heading towards Puchong. A Perodua Kancil (grey) bearing registration no WXX 8XX (notice:3 digits) cut abruptly infront of me without signalling which almost resulted in an accident.

    I honked at the car but instead of apologizing, the driver turned abusive and showed me ‘the finger’. After that, he slowed down and changed to the middle lane (from the fast lane) and I thought of passing him. However, I was taken aback immediately as I was about to pass him, he took out a rock (the size of probably a size 4 football) which I presumed with the intention of hurling it towards me. Noticing that, I quickly applied my brakes and with that I slowed down and decided to slot behind him. I called the PJ Police HQ and was passed on by the operator to one officer by the name of En Dxx. After explaining to him the incident plus providing him with the details of the car and location, he promised to look into the matter indicating that he would radio the Puchong Police to intercept the car.

    The irony is that I am not sure whether he had acted on the complaint or not as:-
    (i) Firstly, I have not gotten any update from him;
    (ii) Secondly, he may not know who I was as he did not take down my contact no.; and
    (iii) Thirdly, if indeed the car was intercepted the police would obviously need me to be the witness.
    (Again, the obvious lack of a set work procedures and/or the failure of the officer in applying it probably due to lack of enforcement on rewards vs penalty performance scheme within the force emphasizes the need of the commission)

    My point is that, if the above assumption is true and this driver is indeed brave enough to act on each and every supposedly ‘provocation’ in his own definition, self-written, regulated and enforced set of laws, I am saddened by the fact that the force which is supposed to provide security to the rakyat, treats this complaint lightly.

    If this example and maybe others ‘tidak apa’ examples are not reported, acted upon and punished, how and when will we ever have first class professional force?

    One of the many questions the rakyat may have is “on what basis the ruling Government is rejecting or opposing the set-up of the commission and/or is reluctant to speed the setting-up of the same?

    An action/outcome cannot be without an attached explanation which serves to clarify/explain such action to the satisfaction of the rakyat.

    I think the above example is of utmost serious in nature and the reluctance or rejection of the setting up of the commission is beyond comprehension what more such reluctance or rejection is without reasonable basis.

  72. Mr. Murugiah, baldie is now barking at your actions and is afraid to have to answer to all the ‘accusations’ when exposed.
    Be the outstanding one still within the BN and be noticed by the RAKYAT for all your good deeds for the betterment of our future generations!
    Go kick baldie hard in the a******!
    Then move on to the other ministries and do the same!
    Only fear is will Sleepy on the advice of SIL, step in to have your days numbered.

  73. 10 years ago when you wanna cross a road, you will look left and right to check on the car.

    10 years later when you wanna cross a road or to somewhere, you not even look left and right but also front and back not to check on the car but the most dangerous is the people surrounding you. You won’t know what will happen next to you.

  74. Here’s a riddle:

    Q: What’s the difference between a policeman and a gangster?
    A: The gangster have no license and doesn’t wear a blue uniform.

    Here’s another one:

    Q: What’s the difference between a policeman and a gangster?
    A: When a gangster took money from you, it’s called extortion but if the guy in white & black did it, it’s called, “Macam mana you mau saya tolong?”.

    Help… I can’t stop… another one:

    Q: What is the responsibility of our men in blue (or white & black) in our country?

    A. To uphold justice & peace.
    B. To protect the innocent & to arrest the guilty.
    C. To maintain peace in the country.

    A: None of the above. They’re just here to take the (increased) salary and make even more pocket money from innocent citizens.

  76. Sorry people our Police Dept and its men are only for catching seditious crimanals and to detain the opposition plus take police reports from UMNOites against the opposition. They are not paid to fight crime or bring it down for the rakyat who actually are paying their taxes for these services (one part).

    As long as this committee is not in-force this force is a FARCE!

  77. The_Dude,

    That was funny but obviously I think everyone understand the message you have delivered.
    Going by your joke – should I have personally and directly offered a on-the-spot incentive scheme to the officers responsible in apprehending the culprit whom I related in the story?
    ;-)
    hahaha

  78. A penalty must be imposed on Abdullah who refused to implement the IPCMC in order to safeguard his position as PM. His failure to take action has endangered the life of ordinary Malaysians. The time is ripe for PR to collect crime statistics and throw them back in Abdullah’s face during the upcoming no-confidence vote.

  79. The most important asset of a country is not its natural resources, but rather its human resources. This is especially true in a knowledge-based economy, which of course, will be the trend in the future if not already the trend in most of the western countries.

    My daughter, who is in her final year medicine in Auckland, told me that a team of Singapore recruitment officers have just visited Auckland and talked to the Malaysian students there, offering jobs and training prospects for the final year students once they graduate.

    My daughter also told me that over the last few years, quite a lot of her Malaysian seniors, after graduating from medical courses in New Zealand, have gone to Singapore to work as house officers and subsequently stayed back in Singapore for their postgraduate training. Similar teams are sent to Australia and UK for recruiting Malaysians there to work in Singapore.

    About a year ago, Reuters reported: ‘Malaysia is counting on bright, ambitious people like Tan Chye Ling for its future, to lead it away from manufacturing and into the knowledge age.’

    But the 32-year-old scientist, a postgraduate in molecular biology, is not counting on Malaysia to look after her future.

    ‘I felt very suppressed in Malaysia,’ said Tan, who moved to neighbouring Singapore, the region’s pacesetter for biotech investment, after a decade of research and study in Malaysia.

    ‘I have benefited from the better research environment and salary scheme here. Things are much smoother,’ she said by phone from the National University of Singapore where she is studying allergies and dust mites. Tan estimates that 60 percent of the research teams she works with in Singapore are from Malaysia, despite her country’s efforts over several years to develop a biotech industry.

    There is a serious problem facing Malaysia and that is the problem of ‘brain drain’. Why are Malaysians overseas not coming back to work? Well, pay may be part of the reasons but it is not the main reason.

    Singapore recruitment teams offer Malaysian medical students a salary which is a few times what they would expect to get in Malaysia S$40000 a year for houseman after tax (equivalent to RM86000) which is about five times the pay of a houseman in Malaysia.

    But as I say, pay is not the main problem. The living expense overseas is high. And for a person working overseas, the loneliness and the stress level is also high. So not everyone opts to work overseas because of the pay. Many would not mind to work for a lesser pay if they can stay near to their loved ones. So why do people choose to work overseas, away from their loved ones?

    Malaysia has many state-of-the-arts hospitals and research centres, which may even be the envy of many overseas countries. But hardware alone would not attract these experts to come home.

    In the medical field, I have so many classmates/friends working overseas, many in world-renowned centres. Why do they do that? Some of my classmates and friends did come back as specialists. After working a few years (many only lasted a few months), most got disillusioned and went off again.

    There is really not much prospect of career advancement here. How many can hope to become a professor even when they are an acknowledged expert in their field? How many of them can blend into the local team where the work attitude is vastly different from that overseas? How many of them can have a say about how things are to be run? On the other hands, lesser beings are being promoted to professorship for doing much less.

    There is an unwritten rule that even if the person is very good, the head of the team has to be someone from a certain ethnic group who may not be even half as good as him. In everyday life, some become disillusioned with the corruption, the red tape and the ‘tidak apa’ attitude of officialdom.

    For an overseas doctor applying to work back home, the application can take up to six months to get approved, whereas Singapore sends teams overseas to recruit them on the spot and offering them jobs immediately as long as they pass their final examinations. See the difference?

    It is the sense of being appreciated and being wanted that make these people stay overseas. Back here, they are often made to feel that they are of a lower class. They do not feel appreciated and they do not feel wanted. That is the main reason.

    For those with children, the education system further puts them off. Even school children can feel being discriminated against and one glaring example is the two system pre-university education.

    All these make them pack their bags and off they go again, leaving behind their parents, perhaps their siblings, the friends they grew up together with and their favourite food that is often not available overseas. No one likes to be away from home but circumstances and a sense of being recognised for their worth make them go away. It is really sad.

    Parents spend big sums of money on educating their children but the ones who benefit most are the Singaporeans, the Americans, the Australians, the British and so on. As long as race politics is not done away with, this problem of ‘brain drain’ will continue and Malaysia will always trail behind the advanced countries no matter how many Putrajaya and Twin Towers we build.

  81. Kit,

    Well, in respect of the issues surrounding the commission, the action of the force and certain ministers is certainly questionable or at the very least debatable.

    On other matters concerning the nation, explanations and actions of the ruling government are not consistent with one another (some from the same source but at different time!) and some are even laughable.

    Kit,

    Since PR is alligned by way of ideology instead of the supposedly race-based alliance of BN, does you and/or PR have any contingency plan/remedial action in the event certain racial issues surfaced within PR. (note:the constitution provides a few privileges to bumiputras, one being centred around education). How would it be possible to have a quota system to effect this consitutional rights and at the same time to balance drain/wastage of talents? Have PR prepared itself to promptly answer to all these possible questions as well as having an action plan in place to address these concerns. Have PR studied the demographic statistics, future/projected GDP vs expenditures, etc. to sufficiently and satisfactory provide facts and figures to have suppport its action plan, well if there is one indeed?

  82. Hiding behind some bushes, bus stop, big tree, in a car with a walkie-talkie calling-in for his fellow police partners who are waiting half km infront to take bribes or simply troubling those who didn’t pay them to go court is what our police do best.
    The wonder thing is, they are setting this trap to catch drivers who make tiny mistake like taking a turn on the wrong side of the lane or something similar.
    Are our police force hired by government to teach citizens how to drive?.

    They should use this camouflage tactics to catch indons or robbers breaking into citizens’ houses at anytime of the day and not teaching drivers how to drive, leave that to the JPJ driving teachers.

    Most citizens will see them as blood suckers and will try to avoid going near to any police officer.

    Sometimes, you feel safer without a police in-sight.

  83. public safety have been worsening we malaysian also fell unsafe in our own land how we want to expect foreigner to fell safe in malaysia either business or leasure?
    as long as our basic fundenmental are wrong we can’t get thing right eventhought a simple issue like public safety,basic human right.
    so no other way out but change of current gorvenment will be the only solution now.
    all promised,all basic human right has been totally dismay if stick with current goverment.
    no hope at Bee N anymore.

  84. Whilst PKR are somewhat low key, Bodwi and Najis are working non stop almost like round the clock, close doors, closed windows, and now close quaters meeting.
    Special Umno Meeting PWTC Friday 10am.

    Sources said the meeting was called to further discuss the power transition plan between Prime Minister and party president Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and his deputy Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak. So this is why, Najis did not go to Washington, The reason for skipping UN as though Malaysia is the only country hard hit by economy. The reason is obvious now.

    Somethings brewing alright. Hang on to your seats.

  85. Yes Kok.

    You are spot on.

    The reasons do not end at remuneration package.

    There is this hearsay – It started many years ago that since then, there is this unwrittten rule that the VC and most if not all heads of department of an university MUST be from certain ethnic group. This mindset perpetuated and trickled down to all levels of the administration which eventually breeds inefficiency. This is education and it is supposed to be the place the nation churns out talents and HR as what Kok has pointed out HR is the backbone of a nation.

    We are not even discussing other areas of the Government machinery yet.

  86. Forgot to put on signal light when making a turn ?

    We forgot the chief police is busy counting his collection from undisclosed private business.

    How can we expect him to help us ?

    Just wonder when will be the day for me to reverse ” helpless ” status in Malaysia ?

  87. I just received a text sms from a number +340000363999 believed to be a third party service provider. I afraid this could be lie that intended to tarnish PR and their leaders. Could someone check on its facts? The message reads

    “Sad News! Sri Mahakaliamman temple was demolished by Majlis Perbandaran Ampang Jaya on 19.09.08. Selangor Indian was cheated by Pakatan Rakyat Government ‘kalau PKR menang, tidak Ada 1 kovil pun akan dirobohkan di Selangor’. Dimana MP India Kita yang seharusnya menyuarakan isu ini. Semuanya hanya tahu pegang banner Dan tipu rakyat sahaja. Anwar Ibrahim Dan konco2nya semua penipu besar! PAKATAN RAKYA, PANDAI TIPU RAKYAT MACAM PEMIMPINN.. YA HIDUP MAKKAL SAKTHI!”

  88. In 2007, the crime rate in the country reached dangerously high proportions. Then the police made representation to the govt. to inform them that they are critically short of manpower, vehicles and supporting equipments to police effectively. The situation then was that the govt had just raised the salary of the police force to commensurate with the risk the force is facing in carrying out their job. No right minded Malaysians will disagree to the increase and will fully support it.

    What the govt did then was to make special allocations in terms of additional manpower , new vehicles , new police bases etc. There was even talk of re-engaging retired police officers to overcome the shortage.

    What happen after this ? Crime rate did not come down . Were the retired police officers engaged and the additional police vehicles deployed to deter crime effective ? By the rate we are seeing the answer is obviously no. You had seen an ex-ACA officer’s wife being murdered by assailants supposedly known to the ex-maid, murder cases in Johor and recently in Penang.

    Looks like the ordinary citizens are not even safe in their own house what more when moving around ! What happens to the safety and security of the country ? Perhaps the Home Minister and IGP needs to provide the rakyat with answers and solutions. Both cannot be silent and owes the country an answer.

    If such situation is to persist, then how are we going to ( 1 ) attract tourists ( 2 ) attract investments ( 3 ) conduct normal businesses when the husband is afraid to go outstation in case the wife and children are being robbed and raped.

    Have we ever stop and analyse what is the root cause of such high crime rate ? We do not want standard answers like … “oh it is under control ” , ” give us more time … ” etc.
    The rot must stop here and someone must be held accountable, otherwise there is no end to the excuses offered. A thorough review of the country’s policing system is definitely needed.

    Do we need to have a Ministers wife to be murdered to see real police action ?

  89. “For an overseas doctor applying to work back home, the application can take up to six months to get approved, whereas Singapore sends teams overseas to recruit them on the spot and offering them jobs immediately as long as they pass their final examinations. See the difference?”

    wah, they’re so agressive, but why today we haven’t seen einstein, moore, gates, or zuckerberg of medical field from singapore ? they even imported so many footballer and sportman/woman and even with the import they yet to produce truly prodigies in the field of science or art. maybe PCK but he is not imported. sgpura always like this one, they just happens to be a country with lots of money wanted to hire/buy/acquire and willing to spend without thinking the quality. and hk movie industry got screwed also because of sgpura campurtangan in their business. true malaysian (e.g, lks) won’t bother to migrate one, if ppl think like him then malaysia already better place oledi….

    at least malaysia got proton and genting…..

  90. The Israeli police force were able to investigate and indict their own prime minister, Ehud Olmert, for corruption without fear or favour.
    So, imagine, while the Malaysian government can condemn this Zionist state of annexing Palestinian Arab lands & displacing Palestinian Arabs from their homes, can the Malaysian police also investigate corruption/crimes involving government ministers including the PM, as well as the Israeli police, without fear or favour?

  91. “Have we ever stop and analyse what is the root cause of such high crime rate ? We do not want standard answers like … “oh it is under control ” , ” give us more time … ” etc.
    The rot must stop here and someone must be held accountable, otherwise there is no end to the excuses offered. A thorough review of the country’s policing system is definitely needed.

    Do we need to have a Ministers wife to be murdered to see real police action ?”

    let have back rukun tetangga how citizens are “forced” to take turns patrolling the neighborhood (just like old days before communist give-up their dream) ! let have those ns forced to take turns patrolling the cities and streets! and how many ppl will agree, sure many ppl start giving reasons and object vehemently. will lge stood up to support mandatory rukun tetangga and start one in penang!

  92. “The Israeli police force were able to investigate and indict their own prime minister, Ehud Olmert, for corruption without fear or favour.”

    we have tdm sack and jail dsai for corruption (and sodomi overturned years later) without fear or favour. note that dsai is convicted in corruption charge, the 4mil corruption, yet u ppl say he din involve in sodomi #1 (corruption and sodomi are different case). yet you ppl mobilized 100k demo in kl back in 1998!

  93. Referring to my last comment, to make it clearer, the last paragraph should read:
    “So, imagine, while the Malaysian government can condemn this Zionist state of annexing Palestinian Arab lands & displacing Palestinian Arabs from their homes, can the Malaysian police also investigate corruption/crimes involving Malaysian government ministers including the PM without fear or favour, like what the Israeli police had done to their own PM?”

  95. # ekans Says:
    Today at 16: 27.10 (11 minutes ago)

    ……..can the Malaysian police also investigate corruption/crimes involving government ministers including the PM, as well as the Israeli police, without fear or favour, like what the Israeli police had done to their own PM?”
    ====================================================

    Malaysian police run the risk of breaking their “rice bowls” or being “put into cold storage” (sidelined or demoted) if they dare investigate corruption of high-profile government figures.

  96. YB KIT, there is no light at the end of the tunnel, you will find IPCMC be buried in the tunnel as long as BN holds the power.They are conspiring to meet both end and their hidden agenda. Sorry state of affair and will take time to rid them. May be Pakatan Rakyat can handle and reverse the situation.

  98. “The only way this will get this into their head if the robbers and murderer start hitting the homes and personal lives of the ministers including the PM and DPM’s home…” – Bigjoe

    You’re right.
    For the past quarter century, everything has gone from bad to worst! Especially with regard to the police.
    While the population was growing, the number of policemen has not kept pace; so much so that we are short of 60,000 men!
    And there was a lot of hype that the government was recruiting more to improve the situation. So far, how many have they recruited? Your guess is as good as mine!
    Now, that the wives of Gerakan officials were affected, they have appealed to the state government (recently taken over by the PR) to do something about it! Ridiculous isn’t it!
    I mean, during all the years that Gerakan was running the state, why was the security situation allowed to deteriorate to such an extent and no action was taken.
    Aren’t they making things bad not only for others but also for themselves?

  99. Lack of manpower.
    The same excuse year after year.
    Yes. Yes.
    We understand the problem.
    But excuses are not exactly recyclable.
    They will go stale for one thing.
    More critically, your responsibility is to resolve problems.
    Re-using excuses give us the impression that you have failed in resolving problems.

  100. Kok said:

    “The most important asset of a country is not its natural resources, but rather its human resources. This is especially true in a knowledge-based economy, which of course, will be the trend in the future if not already the trend in most of the western countries.”

    A certain local mono-racial tertiary institution is producing them in sufficient quantity. In fact more than sufficient. Some of them are currently self-employed as road surface testers. The procedure for testing road surface is a relatively simple one but skill and guts are two necessary prerequisites. And as for equipment, there is only one – motorcycle, any motorcycle. Pillion rider can be useful fancy addition but it really is optional.

  101. Next week is Hari Raya Puasa. Another round of charade of muhibbah with many open houses.

    Umno will have its open house; the PM will have his open house, etc.

    Well, people, you know what to do, right? You know what to say to AAB and what to give him, right? Do the right things, for the sake of RPK who is still incarcerated in Kamunting.

  103. Sorry to sidetrack here but I just saw this piece of news on MSN online:-

    http://news.my.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1694616

    Malaysia’s ruling party talks trigger speculation over PM’s fate
    Malaysia’s ruling party is to hold high-level talks on Friday, in a hastily arranged meeting that has triggered fresh speculation on the future of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi.

    Abdullah was reportedly hit with calls to stand down by four of his cabinet ministers at a meeting last week of the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) Supreme Council.

    “I believe there will be a special Supreme Council meeting tomorrow,” Deputy Prime Minister Najib Razak told reporters Thursday, but declined to give details of what would be discussed.

    Abdullah steered the UMNO-led Barisan Nasional coalition to its worst electoral showing in half a century in March, as voters punished him over broken promises for reform, as well as spiralling prices of food and fuel.

    Since then he has resisted repeated calls to quit, and has also been faced with an unprecedented challenge from the opposition, which has said it has enough support from defecting lawmakers to topple the government.

    In a bid to end the damaging speculation over his future, which has suppressed foreign investment and trade on the stock market, Abdullah forged a deal to hand over to Najib in mid-2010.

    But the pact has been criticised within UMNO, and Trade Minister Muhyiddin Yassin — a potential challenger — said this week that the party faced oblivion if it did not quickly address internal conflicts and the opposition threat.

    Online news website Malaysiakini cited UMNO sources as saying that Friday’s emergency meeting would likely address the power transition plan.

    The site quoted UMNO information chief Muhammad Muhammad Taib as saying that all members of the supreme council — which usually meets monthly — were informed Thursday of the meeting.

    “I am in the dark just as you. All I know is I received the phone call and was told to attend the meeting tomorrow morning,” he reportedly said.

  104. “Or is the IPCMC dead so long as there is a Barisan Nasional government and the only way an IPCMC could be established is to have a Pakatan Rakyat federal government?” – YB Kit

    I’m afraid there will be no genuine reform of the Police force, as well as IPCMC, so long as BN remains in power.

    I sincerely hope that if and when Pakatan Rakyat takes over, that they will not forget to introduce genuine reforms that goes beyond lip service too. The Rakyat wishes and hopes depends on this change of government happening one day, hopefully in the not too distant future.

  105. Actually you could hardly blame all the Gomen officers down the pecking order. They don’t bother to look brhind their shoulders, knowing very well that their BOSSES are in the same boat. Once, while managing a rather large fleet of trucks; one day the manager indicated to me that one of the drivers wanted to discuss an important issue with me. ‘Well, what is it?’ he said that the policemen who stopped him to check his truck informed him that the company could easily settle all over-loading issues at their level, without going to the top. They knew everyone was on the take; they even mentioned ALL the YBs; let’s settle OUR problems in OUR way!! This disease wasn’t created by the lower rank civil service, it oozes right from the PEAK!!

  106. Yes, no place is safe in the street in Malaysia said a foreign tourist who visited few towns in KL, Penang, JB and Malacca. Crimes are committed by many unemployed locals and illegal immigrants too.

    What are the PDRM forces are going to do ? Fight crimes or too busy to manage the politicians matter. Malaysians read many horror stories of crimes happening daily in Malaysia. None of the UMNO-BN leaders have ever voiced out strongly to PDRM in reducing the crime rates. Pak Lah and its UMNO are more interested to fight on retaining their power and less concern about the current economy, financial and social safety in Malaysia. They are too busy about their positions in this coming UMNO election and more talks on politics rather than running the country today.
    Do they really care or they dont even read who is killed , murdered , raped , kidnapped, etc in the media ? They are more keen to know who is the 31 MP Frogs from BN are going to jump over to PR party. Home Minister is more keen to put the blogger to ISA jail but unsuccessful to charge the reporter and the lady exco/politician. Are these good citizens are national threats as compared with other hardcore killers or robbers out in the streets.
    Well……..What a BIG Shame to BOTAK ?

    Malaysians read horror stories about the increased crime rates happened in the police forces like raping, drug missing, corruptions, abused power, squatting incident etc. What a SHAME ?

  107. syed hermit is busy protecting himself from the onslaught of PR where got time to care for rakyat terrorized by robbers and murderers? He will use ISA to make sure no umno goons are ever threatened by PR cos it will lead to the extinction of them. Let the rakyat die. Let the rakyat suffer. They will never be any IPCMC.

  109. Don’t worry .. the police still you to be alve in order for them to continue to enjoy ‘kopi O tarik’ from you all.
    As long as you all scare to die and easily afraid when caught in the wrong ..you’re their cash cow …
    As for both incidents , it’s a political warning for those in the bn component parties to stay with umno otherwise ……….
    umno have lost their heads in their dying effort to stay in power ..
    so, sit back and enjoy what we have created for 51 years …
    we all talk so big ..yet like me …srunked when they make louder voice….

  110. UMNO loves law of the jungle.
    Live with it!
    Police are not at fault….being faithfully to their Commander of the day.
    The only problem with police…is that…their few corrupted commanders…playing hand and gloves politics with UMNO..instead of being non political…police force.
    We are very similar to Philippines …..Marcos time…..dangerous grounds.
    Below these few leaders are thousands of police leaders..actually non bias ….and these are the police force……Malaysians are hoping…will protect Malaysians with their lives…from any evil minded…unfair and unjust laws.
    So far..the country is peaceful….so the police is actually doing their job well.
    Malaysians are dead set to change the government….and from now onward…we will do so…to regain people’s power….but Anwar must be given..at least 10 years…to straighten out so many things.
    However..once Pakatan Rakyat future ministers are proven to be equally corrupted..that’s it….between the two evils…lets stick to the one we know best.

  111. Recently. if someone was to comment that nowadays you could see more police patrolling housing estates on motorbikes, the response he was likely to get was that they were going around just to “cari makan” or that they were around just to show face in the face of public outcry or that they would no longer be seen so soon as the outcry subsided. Lately, he would be likely be reminded that Hari Raya was just around the corner.

    It is hard to reverse a negative public opinion after it has been proven true most of the time that there is utterly no professionalism in the police force and that the police is just a bunch of uniformed bullies with no sense of shame. The only way forward is a complete change inside out and from the top down based on merits, not churning out more empty slogans like bersih cekap dan amanah or saya anti rasuah or pimpinan melalui tauladan.

    But it will take time to nurse and clean up a rotten force but we have to start somewhere and the IPCMC would be a good start but at the end of the day, meritocracy must be the basis for police recruitment and employment, deployment and emplacement, awards and promotions, etc.

    It is not just the police which has a big problem of image and reputation. It is across the board – the immigration, the customs, the hospitals, district and land offices, public schools, the public Universities, the Cabinet, you name them – this fast systemic declining standards and the vanishing of professionalism becuase of the lack of emphasis on merits.

    As if this is not bad enough, UMNO is deliberately fanning and stoking or at least protecting and condoning the flame of bangsa dan ugama which is so antithetical or so incongruent with very basic ideas or notions of meritocracy.

    Even assuming there is an absolute political necessity to appoint a Malay to be Home Minister, emplacing someone like Syed Hamid in that portfolio takes the professionalism, image and reputation of the Home Ministry and the police many, many notches further downwards. Isn’t there a better Malay who can be appointed in his stead?

  112. It was reported quite some time ago that number of personnel actually on duty on the street is less than 9% of the total police force. What happen to the rest of the 91%?

    No wonder the visibility of the police when it comes to the service of the rakyat is practically zero. We don’t see any police around in the neighbourhood anymore unlike in the 60s or early 70s when police patrols in their Alfa Romeos were very commonplace.

    However when it comes to escorting BN bigshots, attending BN-sponsored functions or patrolling high-class areas, one can see a whole horde of them, especially those higher ranking officers outdoing one another to be very visible.

    What wrong with our police force nowadays? Are they only servicing the BN machinery? What about service for the rakyat? Can anyone enlighten me what the rest of the 91% are doing?

  113. Got this from Singapore’s Business Times

    September 25, 2008, 8.10 pm (Singapore time)

    Abdullah offers to quit as gov’t wobbles

    KUALA LUMPUR – Malaysia’s prime minister has offered to quit early so as to avoid a leadership challenge but even that may not be enough for his party which fears losing its 51-year grip on power.

    The proposal will be discussed at an emergency meeting of the Supreme Council of the United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) on Friday, the main party in Malaysia’s coalition government, a senior party source told Reuters on Thursday.

    Abdullah Badawi had planned to hand over power to his deputy Najib Razak in 2010, but his failure to tackle a resurgent opposition led by Anwar Ibrahim, formerly deputy prime minister in the ruling Barisan Nasional coalition, has caused rifts within UMNO.

    The prime minister has been under pressure since elections in March when the opposition scored its best-ever result and won over a third of the seats in parliament.

    He has failed to implement key pledges like ending corruption and boosting the independence of the judiciary and his government has been criticised for losing its connection with voters hurt by 27-year high inflation and slowing economic growth.

    The 68-year old premier, known as ‘Mr Nice Guy’, has been in charge since 2004 and had wanted to delay the UMNO meeting which will vote on the leadership until next year, said the party source who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    ‘The 2009 plan and the move to delay the (UMNO) annual meeting may not go down well with the party grassroots,’ said the source.

    Malaysia has been ruled by an UMNO-led government since independence from Britain and the challenge from Mr Anwar, who was forced out of government in the late 1990s and then imprisoned on sodomy and corruption charges, is the biggest test it has faced.

    Mr Anwar has repeatedly said that he has won over 30 defectors from the ranks of government legislators to join his 82 MPs in parliament and to win a confidence vote against Mr Abdullah, which would allow him to assume power.

    However, he has not named the MPs and a self-imposed deadline of Sept 16 for the opposition oust the ruling party has passed. At the same time as he is trying to win power and keep his own three-party coalition together, Mr Anwar is also fighting off another sodomy charge that he denies and says is politically motivated.

    When Mr Abdullah first took office he seemed like a new broom, ready to tackle corruption and reform the judiciary. He was seen as a pious Muslim and a simple man.

    But under his charge, the budget deficit is set to balloon to 4.8 per cent of gross domestic product this year from a planned 3.2 per cent, inflation has surged to 27-year highs and his government has flip-flopped on key issues like petrol subsidies.

    Data released on Tuesday showed RM24 billion (US$7.04 billion) of portfolio money flowed out of the country in the second quarter of 2008 – after the March election – compared with a RM21.1 billion in the first quarter.

    The outflow also coincided with a flight from risky assets due to the US banking crisis.

    Policy looks set to drift further if a distracted Mr Abdullah, seeking to save face, hangs on until mid-2009. The pressure within UMNO and its coalition partners will continue to grow, analysts said.

    The Barisan Nasional (BN) coalition is made up of race-based political parties, representing Malay, ethnic Chinese and ethnic Indian voters. Malays account for over half the population and dominate politics, but UMNO needs the others to hold power.

    The smaller Chinese and Indian based parties have seen support ebb away to Mr Anwar’s coalition which has promised to end an affirmative action programme for Malays.

    ‘If UMNO does not save BN, then it goes down,’ said Ooi Kee Beng a Malaysia expert at the Institute of South East Asian Studies in Singapore. — REUTERS

  115. Tomorrow Special Umno Meeting PWTC Friday may well have nothing to do with power transition. Threats from within should be well control unless something turn up real urgent even some were caught by surprised within Umno. Wonder what happen to the “List’. Perhaps Bodowi knows something that …Anwar also knows. I could be wrong, just a thought only. We’ll see.

  116. Police brutality is evident at the Cheras Mahkota tol intersection, where innocent residence got beaten up and even MP Lim was brutalized. They are good at bullying residence and the innocents. What they do they get away with impunity. I have lost faith in our PDRM.

  117. ‘If UMNO does not save BN, then it goes down,’ said Ooi Kee Beng a Malaysia expert at the Institute of South East Asian Studies in Singapore. — REUTERS

    Trust me, Umno will not save BN. It will continue to push Malay hegemony as if that is the only game in town. All Umno is concerned about is a strong Umno, not a strong BN. However it doesn’t realize that it’s actually the component parties drawing the votes of the minorities which have kept them in power for so long.

    Don’t believe me? OK, assume 80% of non-Malays vote opposition. Umno’s share of the Malay vote usually hovers slightly more than 50%. Let’s give them 60%. Now let’s take a Malay majority constituency of 65% Malay and 35% non-Malay.

    BN’s share = 60% x 65% + 20% x 35% = 46% of the vote.

    Which means in a 2 way fight with PR, they lose. Note that this is a Malay majority area. In a mixed or Chinese majority area, they’ll fare even worse.

    If the constituency consist of at least 75% Malay, BN will just TIE with the opposition vote. Also, bear in mind that areas high Malay majority tend to go to PAS. Most seats are now mixed because the EC has been creating lots of mixed seats which used to be safe seats for BN.

    Frankly, I doubt Umno can even get 60% of the Malay vote even with all the racial mongering. If they can, the racism must be so bad that non-Malay votes may to opposition may exceed 80%.

    Isn’t it ironic that the very groups which have kept BN in power are the ones systematically marginalized?

  120. What you have said,KennyGan,is basically right in a mixed constitutuency from the maths that you have offered as explanation.But then again you must have forgotten about the gerrymandering done by the expert our ‘esteemed’ mamak where a rural constituency of perhaps 5000 malays can be allotted 1 MP to serve them whereas an urban area like any constituency in the Klang Valley with say 80,000 people is given only 1MP,in other words the weighting given to a rural voter (ie Malay) could be ten times or more heavier than an urban voter.This is the one area wheregy in one stroke the mamak has trumped all the dreams of making Malaysia a truly united nation.

  122. over to the us today Obama and Mccain 2 candidates sit down toghter with Bush to discuss of current economy in order to work hand in hand to solve the credit melldown,i think the 700B bailout pakage will soon be aproved by congressman.
    the current credit problem can’t be solve with the only 700B tax payer money.it only solve current problem.it is estimated that 25% drop on housing price will mean 40,000B USD writedown.
    i think it only last for 2-3 months.
    so we malaysian be ready for the impact.

  124. Let’s save Pete!
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  125. I was told a moment of truth story from a local bizman complaining about the Visit Malaysia.

    He was in a business trip and flew back from Europe wih a group of foreign tourists planning to visit some ASEAN countries. He listened to the conversations between few Malaysian passengers and some foreign tourists inside a local plane after they are reading interesting articles in the NSTP and the STAR. Let him shared about their Visit Malaysia plan here.

    A German visitor asked : What is PDRM ?

    A Malaysian IT Blogger said: Aiyah ! Dont you read the media about PDRM means “Police Detained Rajapetra Malaysia” for 2 years under ISA? Rajapetra is a famous blogger for Malaysia Today.

    A British tourist asked again: What is IPCMC ?

    A Malay Graduate replied : IPCMC maksud “Ini Polis Cari Makan Corruptions “.

    Dont understand Bahasa! What are you talking ? asked both confused tourists….???

    An Indian monk explained : IPCMC means “Inside Police Crooks Many Corruptions”.

    Both tourists laughed: Who are the good and bad guys in the streets in Malaysia ? Oh ! My GOD .

    Another Japanese cried out loud: Who should I report to when my life is threaten in Malaysia ?

    A Botak Politician pointed out : ” Dont worry, our ISA is used to protect you and to find the bottom of the threats and you get “free (dog) food” during the protection cum detention behind bars for min 60 days to 2 years or more in a peaceful Malaysia camp.” You are free if the crooks never complained again.

    Three tourists confused and asked : What is ISA ?

    An undercover Policeman proudly explained : ISA means you will be detained without trials and no charges for suspicion of national security threats to Malaysia.

    Three tourists opened up and read the newspapers reported : One reporter, one Exco politician and one Blogger are innconcent people were detained by ISA but the pepreprators were scot free from ISA jails. Two ex-ADUN wives were robbed in their homes but one killed due to increase crime rates in Malaysia. The killers are scot free again roaming their next victims in the pearl island.

    A nice MASteward greeted them..” Gentlemen, Welcome to VIsit Malaysia, we have just touched down at KLIA and have a nice happy shopping in Malaysia.

    Three tourists packed their luggages and bags immediately took a next connected SIA flight and flew off and bye-bye to Visit Malaysia forever and ever.

    A Moment of Truth story is hard to “Believe it or Not” ! Many foreign tourists stayed out in the Visit Malaysia 2008.

    ( What a BIG SHAME ? )

  126. For the police to make protecting the ordinary citizens as their top priority would be akin to shooting themselves in the feet. Not only they would not gain any merit or credit in doing so, they might lose their jobs and/or positions too! Always bear in mind that Bolehwood police movies are the most unique in the whole wide world. Don’t be surprised that it could win the next Grammy and Oscar awards. All the police movies we have seen so far only involve real crime bustings and hunting down of hardcore criminals. But Bolehwood New Police Story (as opposed to the one starring Jackie Chan) features a scene whereby people who protect the crime masterminds get their a$$ covered and rewarded with contract$ whereas those who expose them by calling a spade a spade (like what RPK did) get their a$$ sodomised and then arrested under ISA.

  128. If the 3 pillars of govt is not separated and a clear line drawn between 3 of them. Forming any new commissions will not help; and if no transparency between all 3, then it will be useless as well.

  131. Today UMNO gonna have closed door meeting “WCW” smackdown…

    BN’ed.. NO DOUBT their the World Class Politician BUT Not Governing a country!

    These corrupted regime robbed the nation as nepotism build family empires with cronies, tycoon satay house mansion, luxury cars, submarines, air force one… you named it!

  132. My experience with the police force made me sick with the police. I believe the malority, I repeat the majority, is indiscipline. This is because they do not have a capable heads to look after the lower rank policemen.

    They have been given a raise recently. Does it change the attitude? The answer is no. They exhibit the same old characters.

    When there is no discipline there is nothing to talk about efficiency.

    Our police force is plain hopeless.

  133. PDRM needs to be revamped, reorganised and restructured.
    The top senior ( IGP , Dep IGP ) level is too busy involved in politics.
    The middle top level ( SACs , DCPs , ACPs , CPs ) is too busy catering their “Tuan” and also state politics.
    The lower top level ( SP, DSP , ASP ) are too overloaded with cases just the same as the middle level CI,Insp,PI and Sj.
    The lower ranking Kp , LKp are too busy stopping the Burmese , Bangladeshis and Indonesians for “duit kopi” , thus pilling up cases for the middle level.

    When you look carefully at the situation, there isn’t any synergy in PDRM. It is busy catering to the needs of individuals rather than our law system.

    It’s like when you complain of a case , PDRM middle level will instruct on arresting the said individual/s but on the ground, the lower ranking officer will “extort” the suspect. He will be technically free to do anything until arrested or brought in to take statement. In this hunger need more money, he will definately resort to repeat of crime. It’s an endless cycle creating more crimes. It’s not about law anymore !!! Without LAW there is no ORDER !!!

  134. All I can say is that the country is in a mess.

    Amid the worsening crime situation, corruption remains unabated.

    The IPCMC is but just one mechanism to check police from abusing their powers behaving like criminals that they are supposed to apprehend. It is not the panacea of all ills. It won’t solve the root problem – the cancer of corruption – elsewhere (say) in Immigration or whatever other departments where there is administrative/legal discretion which is exercised to delay or inconvenience to exact a price.

    Whilst the criminals are having a hey day, an intellectual like Raja Petra Kamarudin who used his MT website to articulate both rumours and truth of Corruption and Abuse of Power is, on the other hand, criminalised and incarcerated without trial in Kamunting.

    Why ? Because he is a threat to vested interests, and the political and religious heterodoxy of the day which the ruling elite protects.

    This is a clear case of punishing the innocent like RPK for highlighting and combatting the sins of the guilty and the corrupt.

    This is an extraordinary state of society – or rather failed society – which Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah has said is the defining moment to which the nation has now reached.

    More and more Malaysians especially the educated young are looking for new ways and reforms, radically departing from the old order based on Mahathirism to give meaning to the word “nation” to bind them together under shared norms of harmony, rationality and honesty.

    In short, they are looking for a kind of Messiah to lead them out of the morrass but where is he who could take on and defeat the reactionaries determined to keep the country in stagnation for preservation of their own personal interests?

    Who is he – is it Anwar, Ku Li or someone yet to be borned ?

    We have enough of pretenders. The time is past for making high claims that cannot be fulfilled and exciting hopes that cannot be gratified.

    If one can’t hack it as a leader of merit, one should just ship out and let another take over this burden.

  135. a support for anwar is a support for paul wolfowitz….and who is this wolfowitz? whats his agenda? who are his bosses?……behind this fella wolfowitz is a committee of ruthless cold blooded serpents who desires power, dominance, wealth and anyone or countries (like iraq, cuba, vietnam, korea, libya, iran, afgan ….etc…etc..) getting in the way risks presented with a sanction notice or worst still, wars, bombings, civil caused unrest by opposition leaders in the name of democracy and total chaos. The end justifies its means so they say. I suggest our readers go to all search engines and expand our ‘small’ malaysian mindset to the world wide view……where the really real politics are manipulated in a most comprehensive style…..Neo conservatives are very much is power and they are ready to colonize us all over once again.
    whether you believe or not its entirely up to you. So click the followings and do the endless search thats available.

    for starters, the great conspiracy part 4 :- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiL0r6TTDE8&feature=related

  136. The image of the police force has already sunk to a level beyond salvage.All political parties,the bar council and NGOs should exhort the authorities to implement IPCMC in order to give the rakyat some hope.If not,very soon the people will live in despair because of perpetually tolerating the feeling of insecuity and the lack of protection living in this country.

  138. mendela.,
    c4 guy is incharged of our wealth now,i guess,all our S// will be ashes rite?
    and rosmah will overtake mrs marcos,having 1000 pairs of expensive,branded and custom made high heel shoes rite???

  139. ” Malaysia’s prime minister has offered to quit early so as to avoid a leadership challenge but even that may not be enough for his party which fears losing its 51-year grip on power.”

    if this to happen you ppl will be regretted . who will ascend to the seat if aab to resign. and speaking of tpm:

    1) i thot was he apathetic when he said no API release in the country in serious haze
    2) i thot he was in malaysia when johor flooded in dec 2006, he did not do much thing either. even there was army reported corrupted, yet what action he took.
    3) i thot he oversaw the PP by-election.
    4) i thot he too was religious when he had made use of his religion in swearing that he was innocent.
    5) even the predecesssor once supported him calling him coward, he’s so coward (or loyal) that he obeyed every single thing from aab. heck, he even avoided sharibuu’s father in lobby previously rather “berani kerana benar”.
    6) what have he done in his ministry when there was overspending budget, nuri crash, ns died, and cases army reported indiscipline……

    at least aab not so bad. if to aab to out, he should do nation a favor sack his deputy first ……

  140. Despite the tarnished image of the force,we still have to appreciate the dedicated police officers for their effort in maintaining peace and order and tackling crimes.But many of them may be demoralised by the continuous and scathing remarks against their force.What do they expect these days?Whenever there is a mere mention of PDRM,nine out of ten would piss it off with all sorts of contemptuous and derogatory comments.

  141. I live next door to a wife beater. He is your typical sex mad businessman in his 50s. His wife is a pretty girl in her early 20s. Every week or so, he comes home to either satisfy his lust or to beat her. When it gets really rancak, you can hear him banging her head on the wall between our rooms (we live in a single storey terrace house).

    The last time he went on a rampage, he used a police baton and smashed all the windows and glass door. It was so bad I was sure that he was going to kill her. I called the police (this was the 4th or 5th time).

    Fearing for my childrens’ safety (also I did not want them to hear the brutal beating), we went out of our house. I waited at the shops about 100 metres away for the police to come. They finally arrived 30 minutes later. I flagged them down and informed them that I was the one who called. They asked for directions because they didn’t know where the road was (my area is not a new area). I gave them the directions. After five minutes, I decided to drive by my home to see if the police was there. They weren’t. They were trying to find my home even though my directions were clear. I had to drive around, find the patrol car again and I had to lead them to my home.

    All in all, it took them about 45 minutes from the time I made the 999 call to them arriving at my neighbours home – and that was with my assistance. If they did not have anyone guiding them I’m sure they would have arrived much later.

    Is it any wonder that people in need of help die before the police arrive?

  144. licensed gangsters lah , very professional lah where got hanky panky

    it is deep in the bone marrow, a what ipcmc tablet would help, it need a surgery , an amputation maybe.
    certainly a replacement is an option.

    another way go back to the roots, hire a british resident

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