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Remove SMK BUD4 principal unless she mends her ways (4)

My blog on the complaint by a parent against the school principal of SMK Bandar Utama 4 Damansara for her lack of understanding and respect for the sensitivities and rights of diverse races, religions, languages and cultures in plural Malaysia has provoked quite a firestorm of response.

There have been over 200 comments in the three threads on the subject since yesterday:

(1) BU4 Damansara – another case of “Napoleon” and school principal insensitivity – 72 comments

(2) Hishammuddin sets worst example for sensitivities in plural Malaysia – 76 comments

(3) More about SMK BUD4 (3) – 58 comments

The complaints of the parent against the school principal, which had been endorsed by many commentators, were her decisions in imposing in a school with 85% Chinese and 10% Muslim students “bacaan doa” during assembly, banning the cheerleading team, no more wearing of shorts for PE and her directive that for CNY, the school can have a lion dance performance but without the drum.

In the comments, there have been more criticisms of the school principal’s insensitive and “Little Napoleonic” ways which are best summed up in the following email from an alma mater of the school:

“I am writing this e-mail to you regarding your latest post on my former school, SMK BUD4. What the parent has wrote to you is indeed correct. Although I have left BU4 for good but I still do communicate with my friends and teachers of that school. In fact I still do visit it quite frequently.

“After hearing about these issues about the new principal I felt that I should play my part as a former student of this school as well. I have a few additional information I would like to share with you. As Valentine’s Day is drawing near, the Scout Troop of SMKBU4 proposed to sell cookies for that occasion to gather some funds for our activities and charity. But to their dismay the Principal rejected the proposal immediately by the reason that she is a Muslim and does not celebrate Valentine’s Day. As far as I know, Malaysia is a multiracial country. The government is trying to promote multiracial values but their civil servant are going against that.

“Besides that, our school hold a Talent Night Event for students to show off their capability and talent every year. The new principal has also said that she does not want the event to be held this year. She told a teacher that if we wanted to attend a contest we can go to the US or other Western Countries. After hearing this I felt that this principal has a real narrow mind. I feel sad for her honestly.

“I still remember an incident that happened last year during our school’s PIBG’s AGM. As the YDP PIBG stood up to present his speech in English, a Muslim parent stood up as well but for another reason. He requeste”d our YDP to speak in Bahasa Melayu as this is Malaysia. I still remember him saying that the British times are over, every Malaysian should know how to speak in BM. The parent and a few others insisted on their stand therefore we had no choice but to ask a teacher to interprete the text to BM. Well my question is this. Did anyone or any rule stats that English is not allowed to be used in Malaysia? Even our government are encouraging the citizens to use english. The Education Ministry introduced Maths and Science in English.”

I am offering this blog to the school principal concerned the space and opportunity to reply to the many valid and legitimate criticisms which have been leveled against her for her lack of sensitivity and failure to set a role model as head of a school in plural Malaysia.

The Education Minister, Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein and/or Deputy Education Ministers, Education Ministry big-wigs are also welcome to this blog to clear the air.

Unless the principal could deny or explain satisfactorily in a substantive manner the various criticisms directed at her, she should be removed unless she is prepared to mend her ways, rescind her insensitive decisions and realize her responsibilities as head of a school in a multi-racial, multi-religious and multi-cultural Malaysia.

146 Replies to “Remove SMK BUD4 principal unless she mends her ways (4)”

  1. I posted this comment under the earlier thread on this topic:

    Quote
    This is an isolated case of “Napoleonism” in that the principal herself decided to change certain things based on her principles and beliefs. I don’t think that it has been condoned by the Ministry of Education. There are obvious grounds of appeal e.g. writing to PIBG, the DG of MOE, etc. And of course, attending the next PIBG to let your voice be heard is as important.

    We must all understand that under the Badawi regime, ol’ Big Ears thought that he was in the forefront of the biggest revolution since the Mahathir era. He thought that the opening up of “freedom” and the empowering of the chain of command to make decisions would compare him favourably against Mahathir. [Very recently, in one meeting which a friend of mine attended, Badawi was asked how come so many things are not moving forward in Bolehland, despite his constant promises of getting things done. His answer was “But I already approved all of these.” In truth, he had forgotten for some cases, and he had not followed up at all on the rest of the cases.]

    There is no system of command, no system of accountability, no system of responsibility. Everybody makes their own decisions, and it is just too bad if it does not conform with the national objective. Badawi doesn’t supervise his ministers, his ministers don’t supervise their DGs, their DGs don’t supervise their senior officers, their senior officers don’t supervise the others down the line. Even the despatch riders are not supervised anymore, with the “openness” that is being encouraged by Badawi. And every month, the civil service gets paid on time.

    This is the sad state of affairs in Bolehland under this inept regime. Badawi probably modelled himself after Deng XiaoPing who proclaimed “Let a thousand flowers bloom” in the 80s to open up China, but sadly, Bolehland is already stinking from the rot of flowers indiscriminately thrown around.

    Unquote

    I don’t think that we should be quoting that the school is 85 pct Chinese, and 10 pct Muslims, because the racial mix has nothing to do with it. The issue is uniformity – as much as possible, and across all schools. What the principals and teachers should care about is curriculum, not attire, which should be the domain of the Ministry nationwide.

    Forcing the principal to resign is not going to stop other little Napoleons from trying to impose similar regimes elsewhere. As in my comment above, the lack of accountability and responsibility stretches right from the very top.

  2. Well, if the school principal do not reply to all the above comments, this clearly showed she is not qualified to be the principal of a school. Then will the minister of education please explain how such an unqualified person can be promoted to be a school principal. Please provide the general public all the requirements of a person who can be promoted to be a school principal.

    The problem with our school now is there are many principals who impost their personal ideals or believes blindly without considering the feeling of others in their school. On top of this, these principals do not realise that their personal ideals and believes are separate issues versus the actual job functions they are supposed to carried out.

  4. I am not sure if MAS’s aircraft maintenance engineer recruitment is still conduct the exam in English.

    Those day back to 1983, we study Physic and all science subject in BM. BUt when I attend the test to join as trainee engineer, the test was conducted 100% english.

    I have no complain about conducting test in English but please teach those subject in English as well.

    Just can’t understand how stupid the Ministry’s officers are.

  5. That’s is caused by the fallout of UMNO’s NEP and ketuanan melayu policies. Because of these policies, people are put into important positions not because of their competencies but their skin colour. These people are just not competent and because of that, people of all races, malays included, suffered through the lack of knowledge, creativity, service, etc.

    In addition to incompetent school HMs, we have incompetent and corrupt ministers, directors, officers who are put there because of their skin colour steal from the rakyat of all races or have caused the country to lose money. In government hospitals, immigration departments, police departments, city councils, etc people of all races have to wait for hours to be served and face mounting red tapes and bureaucracies just because the administrators not of the best calibre are being promoted and put in charge. We have CEOs of large GLC who are placed there not because of their capabilities but colour causing the companies to lose monies big time so much so the companies have to be bailed out using the monies of the rakyat comprising of all races.

    Rakyat of all races have to pay high prices for the purchase of cars, usage of water, electricity, internet, tolls, airfares, bus tickets, etc, etc, all because the people who manage these companies must come from a certain race and not because they are the best in their line of work!

    In the end all races suffer because of this interference going against the law of nature.

  6. I would suggest for our schools to be split into muslim and non-muslim schools, following the current political make-up
    Malay = UMNO, Pas
    NON-Malay = MIC, MCA
    If these still could not solve the problem or it is unthinkable, then NO MALAY HM for schools with Majority NON-MALAY.

    IMagine Badawi heading MCA or MIC and they all have to pray on Friday, wear songkok, no shorts, no swearing in the parliament. We all be laughing our heads off and everybody happy in Malaysia.

    But We will all die from laughing if the Indian or Chinese head the UMNO.

    You see, it is all written down in the book regarding to the political parties make-up. Why can’t the schools follow — like father like son! Simple

    Dont do to the others what you don’t want others to do to you ! It’s that simple [deleted]

  7. It’s something that we have to face the reality of the past doing.
    They will never learn about multi-racial communities balance as they were brought up to ‘behave’ like land owner and their rights are at par to the only righteous religion in this world.
    We just sit and watch the show.

  10. SACK the School Principal because he/she is a fanatic!!

    Little osamas and napoleons have no places in our
    societies!! We do not recognize these kind of extremists
    in our society and community. We simply do not want
    them! They better go and live in Iraq and Afghanistan
    where fanatics live…! They can find lots of their kind
    over there. Why live in multi-racial country like Malaysia?!

    [deleted]

  11. Quote from above:
    The complaints of the parent against the school principal, which had been endorsed by many commentators, were her decisions in imposing in a school with 85% Chinese and 10% Muslim students “bacaan doa” during assembly, banning the cheerleading team, no more wearing of shorts for PE and her directive that for CNY, the school can have a lion dance performance but without the drum.
    and email from an alma mater of the school:
    But to their dismay the Principal rejected the proposal immediately by the reason that she is a Muslim and does not celebrate Valentine’s Day.

    How can she imposed what is deem to be her own personal ideas. The sleepy pm is a muslim, can he impose all the above on the whole population? We don’t care who she is, she just cannot simply imposed what she likes and not following the education policies provided she can show written proof that it comes from the ministry of education.
    She is not only stupid, a moron but a mad person that must be lock up in Tampoi, Tanjong Rabutan or under the ISA.

    A lion dance without the drum. What about celebrating the hari raya without open house or not allow it to be a national holiday.
    Swimming costume to be long pant, full shirt, wearing scarf and socks.

    This country is really going no where men……..

    We must act fast, or we are doom.

    50 years is ENOUGH
    Vote For A Change
    Vote For Any Opposition
    Give Them A Chance To Change For A Better Malaysia
    Remember bn Is A Useless Grouping Of Self Serving, Corrupt, Dictator, Power Crazy, Racist, Kris waving, etc, etc type of parties.

  12. In Malaysia, we do things our way.

    If a non-Muslim principal did something that was deemed to be sensitive to Malay, he would be lambasted by all UMNO politicians and he/she would be transfered to the most remote area in Sarawak immediately.

    However, if a Muslim principal has done a lot of things that are sensitive to non-Muslim, he/she will be praised by UMNO behind the scenes. He/she will be promoted to a higher ranking position so that more harm could be done to non-Muslim.

  14. GodFather …. the fact that matter is when someone smash your temple, you don’t think anymore, the rest is reflex. Let’s forgive him, just call it “Temporary Insanity”. And these are simple people not people highly educated like the HM!

  15. Here there are. Stupid ‘ educated ‘ graduate has became school principal with so narrow minded like “Katak bawak tempurung”.

    The Education minister just spend unnecessary government fund to seek global advice to the ministry to give freedom to student.

    helpless Says:

    Yesterday at 14: 30.47
    Here is the cycle work.

    Ignorance Malay not tested under meritocracy system ->
    MALAY BOLEH POLICY have to lower exam passing mark ->
    More ignorance “educated” Malay graduated ->
    Young Malay generation become less hardworking ->
    Young generation unable to follow meritocracy system ->

    Here you go

    MALAY BOLEH POLICY lower down further education standard ->
    More ‘educated’ University graduate joined the society ->
    Idea of sure pass attitude planted in new generation ->

    As a result
    Thes ‘educated’ graduate is unemployed ->
    UMNO have to spoon feed with government project ->
    MALAY BOLEH POLICY have to set 30% bumi share ->

    More incompetent businessman cannot sustain in business ->
    UMNO BOLEH POLICY will utilise tax revenue inefficently to create more unproductive government project ->

    Finally
    New generation of incompetence and uneducated Malays unable to compete under meritocracy system at every area. ->

    EDUCATION, WORKING SKILL, KNOWLEDGE, BUSINESS, ILLITERATE.

    Here it come back again
    Instead of rectify the rootcause , MALAYSIA BOLEH POLICY just know to complain bumiputra is still lacking behind.

    Where is the root cause? Just wonder how stupid this ‘ educated ‘ people including our dear PM refuse to do this simple analysis!

  16. AntiRacialDiscrimination Says:

    If a non-Muslim principal did something that was deemed to be sensitive to Malay, he would be lambasted by all UMNO politicians…

    However, if a Muslim principal has done a lot of things that are sensitive to non-Muslim, he/she will be praised by UMNO behind the scenes…

    This has been always my impression. A double standard in application of law/policy or whatever you want to call.

  17. Still no response from Principal or her Minister in this blog space. YB, you forgot to add that she or they are welcome to respond in BM as well.

    And if she doesn’t respond, I think she should be transferred to a madrasah. The preference is, of course, that she should be demoted and transferred, ‘seeing’ that her competence lies only in making life difficult for others. CAn someone blog about her real competencies.

  18. lho shaolin you sound like jihad, don’t be too extreme,I suggest you learn from a-malaysian, vote for opposition yourself and tell others to do so,we must wake up and no more delay.just see what will happen if 100+ opposition in the parliament.
    disclaimer: I’m not a politician but a faddy bumiputra chinese,and bumiputra is not muslim word, can be use by non muslim otherwise we can change it to bumiputera to advoid unforseen circumtances.

  19. I thinks it is not too difficult to hv standard guidelines of can and cannot do in school rather than leave it to personal tastes of HM who likes to micro-control everything to showoff her fantastic faith.

  20. The last thing we need from an administrator and an educator is someone with a closed mind. This is just proof that with people like her, this country of ours will be going backwards and she should be label as a clear and present danger to our society and country.

    Everyone of us had ‘spoken’ out on this blog. Perhaps it is time now to ‘shout’ it out to the rest of the country and the world about the stupidity and absurd actions of such happenings in our schools.

    There has been calls for the newspaper to publicize this issue and that to me is just wishful thinking. Use modern communication tools to bombard our wakil rakyats and the public with this issue. It is high time that we start to reclaim back our schools.

    We can’t depend on our MOE to speak out on this. Not after he has pulled out his kris and have no idea how to put it back. We can’t depend on our PM to provide leadership on this issue because he is still deciding whether to conduct the science nad maths subjects in english or bm. But one thing though, i am very sure that he has already decided where his next overseas trip would be.

  22. “Everyone of us had ’spoken’ out on this blog. Perhaps it is time now to ’shout’ it out to the rest of the country ”

    Theory: could the HM be instructed by someone to create some waves. May be this is what they want? (Then make a story that there are people anti-Islam, and UMNO the defender of Islam is there to serve you…)

  23. the previous HM, Ms Liu Ling Ling, was fantastic as HM, full of passion and care for the students. she only wanted the best for the students and the school. she even asked her own daughter to help the students on extrasocial activities free of charge. she has the respect of all the students. its such a shame and loss that her retirement was not extended when such skills are in acute shortage and badly needed. its obvious so that a muslim can fill her place. where is meritocracy. the present hm must be replaced. my daughter attends BU4.

  24. MCA goes hip in hope of getting the young

    KUALA LUMPUR: White-water rafting, paintball competitions, waterfall abseiling and motorsport drifting.
    In a departure from the norm, MCA has turned to hip and happening activities to lure apathetic young Malaysian Chinese to play an active role in politics.

    The activities were organised by its Young Members branches in a bid to shake off perceptions of a staid, old party and to serve as a platform to attract more young people.

    MCA amended its constitution last year to enable youth, aged between 18 and 35, to set up their own branches and run their own activities, independently as part of an effort to reinvent itself.

    The move seems to have paid off as to date, 129 Young Members branches, comprising 2,174 members, have been set up.
    However, only 16.07 per cent of the party’s total membership of 1.1 million are below 35, and the party aims to reach 20 per cent within two years.
    http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/National/2134443/Article/index_html

  25. The single biggest contribution of bahasa Malaysia to the English language is the word “amok”. So please don’t think that we can outdo them in calling names, condemning others’ religions, etc. It is at moments like this that we need a cool head while others all around us are losing theirs.

  26. Hishamuddin & Principals Involved,
    I challenge Hishamuddin and the principal involved to write on this blog to clear the air. If this small group of Malays ( like Hishamuddin, Khairy, school principals) have any integrity and wants to uphold the ‘Malay Maruah’, I dare you to write in this blog. All of you have bought over the news papers or have threatened the press so as not to allow the truth be reported to the public. Here it is Hishamuddin, a chance for you to show your ‘Hang Tuah’ attitude in this blog. If you’re a man enough, come and show your intelligence( if you have any) in this blog.

    May God give Malays enough conscience to face the truth.

  27. Most of the present HM are blokes of the highest order.
    Anyway if the MOE himself is not exemplary, what type os teachers or HMs do you expect to get?
    Today I read that the government is going to select the ‘bests’ for civil service! My toes laughed!

  28. I think the best think to do is to take a proactive action, write a letter to relevant authorities to “seek clarifications”.

    If there is no reply (just like Abdullah did not reply to Lingam tape key witness seeking for govt protection), post the letter on the blog,news,everywhere. Let everyone knows.

    Sometimes(not always) when there is documented evidence, things only can start moving.

  30. “But you must remember the word amok comes from this country and there is a limit to everything.” – de facto Law Minister in the Malaysian government, Mohamad Nazri Abdul Aziz

    Yup, cuckoo land.

  32. Mr Anba, I hearsaid Hang Tuah is non existing or may be a non malay because Hang is a chinese like surname and given consideration of the relationship of Melaka history with laksamana Cheng Ho,If Hang from Kedah it may from Thailand still not ok,so I think you better suggest something else.How can you dare to put something non muslim and non malay to a umno polotician it’s haram lho.

  34. There is a very famous argument about defending individual freedom that is commonly used in the US to defend it and I will try and give the equivalent here.

    To those who like the principal who argue: Isnt our children westernised ways are too high a price to pay for individual freedom? The answer is no. On the other hand, the price they have to pay others to learn westernized ways is too high a price to pay…

  36. “Don’t expect any response from the principal. She is the katak di bawah tempurung.”

    then write another letter and another, not forgetting to put some philosopher’s quuote as below:

    Silence is the virtue of fools.
    Sir Francis Bacon (1561 – 1626)

    * We can only do what is within the system at the moment, unless, until we vote the current govt out for being silence on various pertinent issues (or sweep under carpet).

  37. but probably the best strategy is remained silence?
    because…

    Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute.
    Josh Billings (1818 – 1885)

    Just like that you are talking to stone. Stone head.

  39. GodFather said:
    Forcing the principal to resign is not going to stop other little Napoleons from trying to impose similar regimes elsewhere. As in my comment above, the lack of accountability and responsibility stretches right from the very top.
    ______________

    uh!! same goes…. locking up a rapist, a murderer is not going to stop another rape case nor another murder. Do we blame their “very top” ?

    A teacher tell me this story … he was walking along by a river, met a malay boy, who ran up to him and said ” You Chinese are bad !” My friend ask him why he said that. He replied ” MY DAD told me so”
    Should the boy responsible for his action and taken into accountability ? Maybe not, but the HM is not a child, that we should blame his parents (right from the very top)

    By the way, i think you are not fit to use the name : Godfather, you won’t survive the underworld ! In fact in the underworld, she is a goner … sorry to tell you the truth.

    By the way, you do sound like one hell of a HM, the way you try to discipline the bloggers here … calling them not to “calling name” or “religion bashing” etc.. but yet seem like trying to make the HM in this blog’s subject like it’s OKAY just some everyday happenings …” Take one down, another will replace it ”

    If I misread you, I do regret…Godfather

  40. all this is very interesting. when i was in school, and we had a muslim headmistress, everything suddenly became morning prayers la, changes in attire and this was in 1992-93!!!
    now its getting worst eh?

    hey YB Lim, please look at the latest HOT from the oven posting by RPK on corridors of power! Please lah wei, try to share to masses in malaysia especially the chinese that PAS is not as islamic as UMNO! or else, it will be hard to work hand in hand with PKR-PAS.

    I know you have a phobia of ’99 but i tell you, the voters now are much more knowledgable and we have the internet! what you guys need is to share to everyone and sundry of what PAS means, and how the people in kelantan (esp the non muslims) lives and how the chinese there enjoy their bah kut teh!!!!

    eh, please lah, please la… this is the last chance already!! BN is nearly hancur from within, the money is going to go to ZERO in the few years to come, we need YOU GUYS IN NOW and protect whatever is left of the economy and to steer malaysia to greater heights!

    this is your best chance Uncle Kit, there will be no other coming.
    Please work TOGETHER! PLEASE!

    Good luck and The rakyat will be with you if YOU ALL do the right thing! now is the moment, YB!!!!

  42. that principal must must remove since she dont know how to control the school activities, in this modern time still having the principal like her it is let people to feel disappointed and uncomfortable. ???? HOW can this kind of people were promote to do Principal in school???? that is we WONDER!!!

  45. Oh! godfather..
    I am not saying calling name or belittled people religion is alright, but I am quite sure and hopefully all bloggers here would understand it’s all targeted at the HM’s very action which ironically is very anti-religious and inti-racial indeed and what more it is unprovoked !!!!! By the inaction of the authority, it is like letting the rapist and the murderer roam free !!!

  46. gangeticus said…

    I was thinking of joining too! Alas, I saw your other posts, such as this one:

    http://pasnationalunity.blogspot.com/2007/12/muhamad-in-hindu-scriptures.html

    In itself, its OK. You may comment on my religion, its free speech. But when you mention stuff like this “…Kitab-kitab agama Hindu ini walaupun telah dirubah dan dikotori dengan begitu teruk…” Well, still OK, I guess.

    The part that makes me reject whatever you are peddling is when you say its “wajib” to convert the non muslims.

    Thanks, but no thanks! I happen to believe in my religion, and I think I can physically proof the truth of my religion.

    PS: the article deals with only one of the interpretations of the scriptures. HINT HINT
    http://pasnationalunity.blogspot.com/2007/12/pas-indian-supporters-bridging-earth.html

  47. Sorry for a deviation in the topic. Anyone can confirm this article on Hang Tuah.

    In June 1998, the government of Malaysia had hired a team of
    experts from across the continent to be gathered here in Malaysia for a research project to complement the history studies that we undertook in our secondary schools.

    The objective of the research is simply:

    1. To find proof and evidence that shows the Malays are the origins of Malaysia and they are the first race and religion that land their foot in Malaysia .
    2. To further strengthen their claims, first they need to find the graveyard of the Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Lekiu and etc..toshow the existant of their pioneer.

    3. The Batu bersurat in Terengganu, reveals that the islamic religion has landed in Malaysia for a hundred years ago which further strengthen their claims!

    That is why, we are taught with sejarah (history of Malaysia )!!!!

    BEWARE & OPEN YOUR EYES!!! go ask your brother, sister, niece, nephew and etc. etc, since the year 1999 (if i’m not mistaken) or year 2000, do they study about HANG TUAH anymore????????

    Why is that popular subject GONE????? Missing in action??????? or evidence revealed something different that caused the government
    to stop the syllabus and HIDE the TRUTH????????

    *Here are the Evidences of the findings by the team of scientists, archaeologist, historian and other technical staff from the United States , United Kingdom , Germany , Canada , Yemen & Russia . *

    *The evidence are: *

    1) They finally found the graveyard of Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat etc…, their skeleton had been analised and samples of DNA had been taken with the results showing: Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Lekiu and mates, they are NOT MALAY!!!!!! they are CHINESE (islamic) from China !!! and why they were here in Mala cc a????? because they were in a misison to protect the MALAY S from attack of SIAM ( Thailand )!!!

    So Hang Tuah is not Malay hero!!! they are the protector of the useless and ungrateful Parameswara (who is from INDONESIA ) landed in Malacca and claim the land belongs to him!!!

    The Hang Tuah bunch of people were all from China , they were being assigned to Malacca because Parameswara requested the Ching Dynasty Emperor for protection!!!

    This is why the Hang Tuah series of history is MISSING from SEJARAH!!!!

    *2nd. Evidence: *

    The researchers hired by the government found the oldest tomb stone(grave yard) in Kelantan in year 2000. Suprisingly the tomb stone are at least 900 years old!!!! older than the so-called batu bersurat. and the best thing is, it belong to the CHINESE!!!!!!!!

    If you want the black and white evidence of the truth.
    please write to the The Federal Association of Arc & Research of Michigan, USA .

  49. tickler,
    look, dont just read from nst and take it as there, PAS islamic.

    what i read about the demolition of the orang asli church was that it was torn down by “others” and even so, PAS had rebuilt the church for them. You better check around and do research man, i cant expect you to start loving PAS, but i ask you, what has PAS done to you and what has UMNO done FOR YOU?

    i cant change your mindset on PAS but if think PAS is islamic, what can then be worse than UMNO at their current madness? think about that.

    excerpts from RPK malaysia-today’s blog corridors of power

    PAS has demonstrated a very tolerant face of Islam. In its 18 years rule in the state of Kelantan, PAS has been very accommodating to the other religions. Pigs, which during the rule of Umno could not be slaughtered in Kelantan, now can. Invariably, pork is easily available anywhere in the state. Kelantan has the biggest Buddhist statue in Malaysia while the Umno-ruled State of Sabah has issued a fatwah (religious decree) declaring Buddhist statues as haram (forbidden) and has banned the erection of Buddhist statues. The Umno-led government has banned the use of the word ‘Allah’ in Malay language Bibles. In fact, they are even trying to ban Malay language Bibles altogether. When PAS first came to power in 1990, the Menteri Besar called the Hindus for a meeting and offered them approval to build a Hindu temple in the state — while Umno-ruled states like Selangor demolishes Hindu temples, which triggered the HINDRAF protests

  51. To helpless:
    I cannot find The Federal Association of Arc & Research of Michigan, USA from web, i doubt the existence of such association (hence the artile contents).

    I also remember reading somewhere there are some inaccuracies pointed out by the article.

    However, on surface, when you look at Hang Jebat, Hang Tuah, Hang Lekir. They all have Hang as surname making one wonders if they are indeed Malay?

  52. again as i said, please stop reading NST and Star and using them to quote anything lah. please lah. i have already stopped believing anything on those junk papers on their nation and national reports.

    i used to read the star everyday for an hour, now i dont even buy the paper and in fact, when i go on star online, i dont even bother to read more than 3-4 headlines and it really turned me off.

    read alternative news for crying out loud, you have an internet connection and you are still telling me of news from mainstream media?

    go read aisehman, what a lulu, rocky’s bru, zorro-unmasked, tony pua, e-contrario, jelas.info, penarik beca, sang kelembai, screenshots, must stop this, infernal ramblings, ktemoc konsiders, elizabeth wong, bersih.org, sassy mp, kickdefella …

    there are so many real truths out there. do your own research and compare, i hate it when someone tells me of a quote in the mainstream and expects me to believe it. we are not fools anymore.
    although they maybe still 2-3million eligible voters out there who doesnt know all these thinsg yet!

    come on guys, work together for the good of Malaysia!

  55. look, dont just read from nst and take it as there, PAS islamic.- shiver

    Come come sir. That is about a case filed in court. That I don`t think is something NST would lie about, they would get sued. It is all over in other blogs, and if you really want I`ll go look for the links.

    UMNO is very different in those `good olde days`. PAS pressure made it what it is today. Has PAS condemned those UMNO actions which you have taken the trouble to list out? Show me where?

    I`m reminded of the Merchant Of Venice:

    “All that glisters is not gold;
    Often have you heard that told.
    Many a man his life hath sold
    But my outside to behold.
    Gilded tombs do worms enfold.”

  56. “although they maybe still 2-3million eligible voters out there who doesnt know all these thinsg yet! come on guys, work together for the good of Malaysia.”

    One way of having better way to share info is copy the whole article you read (Malaysiakini etc) into PDF file, then email to as many friends as you can. There are freewares to convert anything you paste to word and export as PDF file.

    * If you put internet link, not everyone will open, as sometimes they dare not open for fear of virus.

  57. Scorpian6666:

    I do hope that your handle is a deliberate mistake. The actual English word is scorpion.

    To answer your question, I will say that there are many ways of dispensing justice. Different people believe in different ways, and it doesn’t mean that there is a “right” way for all. However, there are ways that are wrong e.g. taking the law into your own hands or going amok.

    Sicilians dispense justice swiftly and with some compassion. They don’t call each other names or belittle each other’s beliefs.

  58. tickler,

    the location was gua musang, can you see who is the MP for gua musang? the land office was under the control of Gua Musang land office.

    although it may not clear your doubts, i can tell you that the church was rebuilt by PAS.

    by the way, if you feel very comfortable voting against PAS, i would say then go ahead, this is true democracy, i dont have to explain till cows come home or pigs start flying.

    by the way, i am a non muslim chinese from the klang valley.

    Dear malaysian, even on pdf forms, people will not bother because now still can makan sikit, still can survive. the day comes when they realized that they are screwed and there is no where to go then they will start reading all this.

    out of 10 msians, 3 will vote opposition, 4 will vote BN (either staunch or blur) and 3 will could not care less.

    those 3 that could not care less is the major decision makers. We need to reach out to those. i have been emailing all my contacts for one year and i see a change in their response.
    come on guys, work it out, everyone do a share and dont let discouragement affect you.

    we are all in this together.

  59. I think we hv gone overboard with our commnets that lump the whole group of malays into this one person’s sin of being an extremist in a school.

    This is what they want us to do. To incite hatred and then when we retaliate en-mass the malays will feel we hv belittled them.

    Dont fall for this trap again. I dont see why there is a sudden surge of such extremisms if not becos orders were gvn from the top to do so.

    Be wary of the secret weapons by those in power to hold on to power even if it means to betray their own people.

  60. Bacaan doa” during assembly, banning the cheerleading team, stopping the Talent Night Event, no more wearing of shorts for PE and for CNY, lion dance performance without the drum ? Unless the principal of SMK Bandar Utama 4 Damansara shows that she was otherwise directed by the State Education Department or Ministry of Education, she should be asked to show cause why she should not be removed for unilaterally running the school like some madrasa, agama or religious school. Her attitude is wrong : why reject activities and charity on Valentine’s Day because she is a Muslim and does not celebrate Valentine’s Day? The activities are for the students, the majority of whom are not muslims. The school is for them students or for her? Sigh – this kind of mentality. She’s a very bad role model for pluralistic Malaysia.

    On the issue of whether YDP PIBG could present his speech in English instead of national language of Bahasa Melayu, the issue is more complicated but try to look at it this way.

    YDP PIBG did it because maybe he felt that it was more expedient to speak in English familiar or widely spoken to the parents present there.

    Or maybe he felt he was more fluent in English than Bahasa. To use English does not mean one is denigrating the importance of the National Language (Bahasa) – where does one get this idea otherwise? Is it an offence to be more fluent in English than Bahasa and to resort to the former where it serves communication best having regard to the audience addressed?

    I don’t think it is an offence.

    However if there were a directive from Ministry/State Education Dept that PIBG must be conducted in national language, then if YDP is a principal or teacher under the STATE’S PAYROLL (which most time I would imagine the YDP PIBG being a most likely parent, is not ), is to contravene the directive.

    But was there a directive? I would think that the fact that YDP PIBG prepared his speech in English shows that there was no directive to the school that he must present it in National Language….Otherwise he would have presented it in Bahasa or if not conversant get someone else conversant to present for him or just read the speech out in Malay.

    Assuming the question of Ministry’s directive in this regard does not arise to complicate the issue what would be the ultimate legal position?

    I am no expert or lawyer on this but would imagine it is affected not so much by article 152(1) of Federal Constitution posted by Chong Zhemin but more by our National Language Act which basically says that the national language shall be used for official purposes.

    But what is official purposes ?

    “Official purpose” is, according to article 152(6) of our Constitution – “any purpose of the Government, whether Federal or State, and includes any purpose of a public authority”.

    Starting with a school like SMK BUD4 – is it a public authority? As it’s not Government, whether Federal or State, it revolves around the question whether that school is a “public authority” as defined so that PIBG being annual meet of parents with the school could also become an “official purpose” of a “public authority” caught under National Language Act that the National language has to be used?

    What is a public authority?

    According to constitutional definition “Public authority” means “the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, the Ruler or Yang di-Pertuan Negeri of a State, the Federal Government, the Government of a State, a local authority, a statutory authority exercising powers vested in it by federal or State law, any court or tribunal other than the Supreme Court and High Courts, or any officer or authority appointed by or acting on behalf of any of those person, courts, tribunals or authorities”.

    There are some who would argue that a school is a public or local authority. They say that is because it is established by from state funds and by govt (Ministry of Education). They say it is unlike private colleges established from private funds or whatever….

    I may be wrong but we have to ask whether if something like a school that is established by a public authority like Ministry of Education, does it make the school automatically itself a public authority?

    The Ministry of Health also established General Hospital (“GH”) but is GH is a public or local authority in the ordinary grammatical sense of the word?

    I am inclined to think not so, and therefore National language Act arguably ought not to catch an AGM of PIBG as official purposes of government or public or local authority for National Language to be mandatorily used.

    And the YDP chairing the PIBG – he is likely a parent, isn’t he/she ?

    So not being the principal or teacher, the parent cannot be described as “any officer or authority appointed by or acting on behalf of any of those person (meaning the government or public authority eg Ministry of Education, so the National language Act apply to him/her?

    You can say he is a useless Malaysian, not conversant in the national language but that’s just an opinion, whether a person is a good and patriotic Malaysian surely cannot be judged by his fluency in national language as the Malay nationalists/Dewan Bahasa people would try to judge, at this time that the government itself is trying re-promote English for our people to meet the requirements of Globalised world.

    Sometimes he may be conversant with Bahasa but adjudge the situtation to be better conducted in English based on audience feedback in English – Does that make him disrespectful of National Language? I should think not. He has not committed any offence either in using English. So whats the fuss?

  62. “But you must remember the word amok comes from this country and there is a limit to everything.”

    May I remind you that the word “Bhutto” comes from Pakistan and see what happens to that family

  63. NEW HOT ISSUE. Insider’s story: the school’s pn pengetua made a huge mistake. it just shows how racist she is. she went up to the school’s main canteen operator which is a chinese and said:” awak adalah orang cina dan saya adalah orang islam. saya tidak boleh makan makanan kamu. awak mesti keluar.” WAKE UP!! we do not sell ANY pork, served chinese food AS WELL AS malay food (nasi lemak prepared by malay hired by the operator). what is wrong with that?? she’s going to make people lose their job and give their jobs to malay’s? even if students who arent racist, after hearing all this stories, they’ll get influence and conflict will surely start. if she stays, does that mean during bulan puasa she’s going to clost the canteen operation for the malay’s sake? she can if she wants and what will happen to the chinese students?

  64. To live in this country, one would need one pre-requisite – long life, to be able to live and survive through the tonnnesssssss of issues that crop up by the second.
    I wonder which school the principal came from prior to this and what has happened to that school!!! Obviously she is very daring to be doing all these knowing that such policies of hers would escalate into national issues. Or is she trying to challenge the non-muslims. Whatever her reasons are and how she thinks, I really hope she will still be able to live the rest of her life with clear conscience.
    As for us, I wish for long life, a very longggggg life,,,,,,

  65. Why did the govt appoint a malay head Mistress when the majority of the students are non-malays?Cant the govt send her to a malay school where she can baca her doa to malay students?This kampong malay headmistress is trying to impose her islamic agenda to a non malay school students.We hear so often about school masters and headmistress trying to outdo each other by introducing islamic uniform and religious prayers in national schools.no wonder most non malays are opting for vernacular schools.

  66. suggestion: bacaan doa during assemly is not wrong. BUT she could have did it in another way which is to let us pray in silent. at least that way, not only the malay students can pray but ALL students can pray in their own religion? please!! be considerate!

  67. But even if I were wrong, even if there’s some court decision that says that a school established from government funds is a public authority, so what when the National Language Act also provides all kinds of exceptions for even the Federal Government or the Government of any State to use any other language ( eg English )for such purposes as may be deemed necessary in the public interest. Nothing in the ACT says its an offence for govt officers to use English or any proceedings if conducted by them in English, is invalid. So what’s the big deal about AGM proceedings of PIBG???

  68. It doesn’t mean that if the majority of the students are of a particular race, that the headmistress/teachers have to be the same…

    As long as the person in question has the right focus, education and character developing, of the students, then it matters not what race they come from..

    Sadly, most of them aren’t…but all the same, we should move away from stereotyping….

  69. I can’t imagine DAP working with PAS. PAS is a crouching tiger just waiting for the alliance to crack, then it will show the real nasty face once in power..Beware.

    PKR has its extremist ie Anwar, UMNO has its extremist ie Kerismuddin, Nazri, Khairy.

    The main issue in this country is that we are out numbered. So Uncle Lim, can you advise us (the non Malay, non Muslim..sorry I’m not racist, I’m just using the gov way of dividing the population) how to increase our numbers, so at least there is a 50-50 breakdown of Non malay vs Malay or Bumi Vs Non Bumi?

    By the way, in Sabah the Project IC has already ensured that UMNO has the upper hand of the population.

  70. The deafening silence from MCA and MIC is sickening. Is that how they react to such important issues?no wonder for the last 50 years our rights have been gradually eroded while the MCA and MIC ministers and cronies filled their pockets with ill gotten gains.

  71. Sorry to everyone for being out of topic, but Malaysiakini reports said that when Tun Dr Mahathir (TDM) who appeared as witness in the Lingam commission this morning, said that:-

    · he obtained “opinions from other people on judicial appointments – whether solicited or unsolicited”;

    · “I listen to unofficial views during conversations or at social gatherings. I consider the views but the final decision is mine.”

    · “I don’t have to tell anyone as to why I made those decisions,” he said.

    This means he could just appoint anyone without judicial talent or proper judicial temperament, that it could be just based on the fact that he liked his face…..And in saying “I don’t have to tell anyone as to why I made those decisions” (even though it might have been based on just the fact that he just liked his face).

    He is basically admitting that judicial appointment is based on the arbitrary decision of the PM, which is his prerogative without need for any accountability.

    TDM has just made a strong case for the institutionalisation of a Judicial Commission for judicial appointment – to take way arbitrary aspects involved in judicial appointment by an individual person, albeit he is the PM, and also to take away with the built in absence of accountability, for tyhe sake of public interest.

    That’s what I take TDM to say to everyone directly : “I can listen to anybody; can decide on any basis, reasonable or not, and its his prerogative not to account!”

    Does the Constitution say this? :)

  73. Isn’t the consent of the King required ? That was supposed to be the “check and balance” which of course disappeared with the shenanigans of the royalty.

    The arrogance of the old man is simply incredible. He may think he answers to no one, but he will soon, to his Maker.

  77. From what I heard from a few teachers’ point of view, they claimed that it is not easy for a Chinese to be a headmaster nowadays. They claimed that most of the Malay teachers refuse to listen to the headmaster and sometimes even boycotted meetings. I’m not sure what’s the reason behind those boycott, but I believed that it has something to do with bigotry because they (the teacher I talked with) never claimed that any Chinese boycotted meetings.

  79. People like this principal and the ones who impose “decent dress code” and separate boys from schools in co-ed schools are simply insecure people with little or no brains. Also included are those civil servants who try to impose their personal religious convictions on others, like banning the use of Bahasa in churches.

    We should pity them and also the government as they are making th government and country a laughing stock with their so-called morality. They are simply stupid!

    We should know what to do at the next general election — send a message home that enough is enough of such nonsense!

  80. Thomas Lee, you are wrong to think that you can win. We, the second class citizens are systematically marginalised. We can never win, no matter what we do.

    The solution is to increase our population ratio. But the dilemma is our birth rate is declining gradually.

    So Uncle Lim, what is the DAP solution??

  81. although it may not clear your doubts, i can tell you that the church was rebuilt by PAS. – shiver

    So you are implying that the MP there, Tengku Razaleigh Hamzah was responsible for, or behind the demolition, and PAS came and rebuilt the church after its demoilition.
    But those greedy orang asli are suing for monetary gains or some other consideration is it?
    Well this sure is going to be an interesting case innit?
    There`s quite a bit on it here:
    http://malaysianunplug.blogspot.com/2007/06/government-demolished-christian-church.html

  84. Jeffrey,

    Thanks for your reply. It’s always so educative to read what you have posted.

    Shiver said,

    hey YB Lim, please look at the latest HOT from the oven posting by RPK on corridors of power! Please lah wei, try to share to masses in malaysia especially the chinese that PAS is not as islamic as UMNO! or else, it will be hard to work hand in hand with PKR-PAS.

    I know you have a phobia of ‘99 but i tell you, the voters now are much more knowledgable and we have the internet! what you guys need is to share to everyone and sundry of what PAS means, and how the people in kelantan (esp the non muslims) lives and how the chinese there enjoy their bah kut teh!!!!

    I beg to differ. The last thing DAP would want to do is to forge an alliance with PAS. This doesnt mean that I am selfish short-sighted. I share the same view of yours that we should vote for any oppositions including PAS to deny BN’s two third. In fact, PAS will do more good than harm if they were to be given more votes and seats in Parliament in the coming General Elections. Thus, any strategic voter, regardles of race, would know that voting for PAS at the moment while PAS has no ability to form a government would not make Malaysia full of Hudud Laws.

    However how do the majority voters see the alliance between DAP and PAS? Most of them are afraid of PAS turning Malaysia into a theocratic Islamic state(DAP must keep educating voters that there is no way for PAS to get two third majority in parliament to ammend the FC). Moreover forging an alliance with PAS will only give MCA and Gerakan chance to mislead the voters. yes, we have the internet. Do not forget that BN still controls the mainstream media.

    Therefore the only option left is to negotiate with PKR and to avoid any 3-way battle. A straight fight against the BN will be our best bet to deny BN’s two third.

  86. Yes, the hardcore support for the DAP is from those right wing extremists who say “over my dead body” when the issue of collaboration with PAS is brought up. That is why the DAP will forever be in the Opposition with 15 – 20 seats and all that Kit can hope for is the leadership of the Opposition for the next 4 – 5 years.

    And that is why the thieves will continue to steal, until there is nothing left to steal.

  88. Chong Zhemin is ahead of himself when he says:

    “Therefore the only option left is to negotiate with PKR and to avoid any 3-way battle.”

    What of PAS? You cannot ignore PAS and treat it as if it does not exist. With PAS on the outside how could you avoid a 3-cornered fight?

  89. Thank Godfather for the corrections…Sorry for calling you not fit enough to be a godfather, it just a bloody reflex for man in defensive situation.
    Oh by the way, its scorpian6666 not scorpion and its something to remember for a somebody who had problem remembering.

    “Remove SMK BUD4 principal unless she mends her ways”

    is what we should be talking about. and Uncle is very forgiving too in the ” unless she mends her ways ” not like how you put it “Force her to quit!”
    Please don’t twist words

  91. Uncle Lim, if she didnt reply to this blog, i think u better call her to talk about it like what you did to the “songkok” issue in Johor..Her racist act need to be STOP..such a person also can become HM ar…[deleted]

  92. “….she should be removed unless she is prepared to mend her ways, rescind her insensitive decisions and realize her responsibilities as head of a school in a multi-racial, multi-religious and multi-cultural Malaysia.”

    That is not going to happen in a million years!

    DAP is just as guilty of politicizing the issue as all those who respond to say that there is nothing that she did is seriously wrong that cannot be corrected. It is overzealousness in the execution of duties as a school principal. Period. It should be seen as such.

    DAP is merely fishing for votes.

  96. Parents could write letters to the Principal and if she does not respond, letters should be sent to the Ministry of Education. Where is the need for any political intervention? Isn’t there a PTA that could take issues to first the school principal and then to the relevant Ministry and then to the Wakil Rakyat.

    Don’t you see that politicizing an issue such as this will have the opposite effect?

  98. If DAP is to been as a non-communal party, it must rise above the politics of race and religion. It’s approach is wrong from the very start. However, if you factor in the need to fish for votes in troubled waters, it makes perfect sense.

  99. That is why I said in an earlier comment that all the DAP can hope for is 15 – 20 seats and the leadership of the Opposition. It could never see itself working with PAS for a better future for all Malaysians (and the converse is probably true with PAS). Regime change in Bolehland can only happen when UMNO’s feeding frenzy causes the country into serious financial difficulty and then UMNO will implode when there is nothing left to steal.

  100. “Regime change in Bolehland can only happen when UMNO’s feeding frenzy causes the country into serious financial difficulty and then UMNO will implode when there is nothing left to steal.”

    But there is always something to steal – even when it comes down to chairs and tables.

  105. BlackEye … since everyone seem to be guilty. Let’s us hear from you who is not …PLEASE..
    It would really interesting to hear what you have to offer, you might perhaps replace Uncle LIM.
    Those who free the BLACKS in the US from slavery had gone down the history as Great PEOPLE. I suppose only in Malaysia, politics of race and religion is TIDAK BOLEH.
    Give us a break !

  108. In an education institution, there are many different clubs for the students to join. Since Malaysia is promoting harmony, the kebudayaan club and the agama clubs should be very active. Agama clubs here mean all the agama. The Persatuan Islam. The Christian Fellowship. The Buddhist get together. The Hindu religious club. And so on and so forth. The government is now stressing on the need for students to join clubs so that they will be all rounders and not just all work and no play.

    Malaysians should decide what sort of pengetuas and what sort of pengajars are the best for the country.

    Regarding this pengetua in SMK Bandar Utama 4 Damansara, some powerful people should transfer her to a strict Islamic school. She will be able to function to the best of her ability there. She should be sent for courses and some form of professional counselling should be given to her. From the way you wrote about her, I think she is disciplined and so, work wise she has not much problems. The problem that she has is she forces her beliefs and her ways on others. May be she thinks that Islam is the way to salvation and all non Muslims should embrace that religion. So she needs to see things in a holistic manner. How does a Muslim behave in the common every day world ?

    There are so many pengajars around. Each time they are about to be promoted, they will have to go for interviews. By just depending on a documented annual confidential report, do you know a lot about a particular pengajar ? By interviewing her for that half an hour, how good is your judgement on her ? If the annual confidential report is all 10 or 9, you are cheating yourself to believe that it is the truth. For that half an hour of interview when she behaves at her very best, can you be sure that this is her behaviour for all the time to come ? Then, annual confidential reports and interviews are meaningless if she is being recommended strongly to become the next pengetua. Imagine the present pengetua going up to the pengarah and insist that the pengajar she has in mind should be the next pengetua. It is an insult to the other pengajars who might be able to make better pengetuas. Does the education ministry ever think about this ?

    Let us go back to this pengetua in SMK Bandar Utama 4 Damansara. Her annual confidential report befoe becoming a pengetua herself, probably goes something like this. ” Seorang pengajar yang mempunyai disiplin yang tinggi ” and I am sure this will come from her pengetua who wished to promote her. But if the pengetua finds that she does have a problem, then it will probably be something like this. ” Tetapi beliau mempunyai masalah berkomunikasi ” and with statement like this, do you think she can still be the pengetua she is today ? So, how credible is an annual confidential report ? How effective is pretension ?

    See, so many Little Napoleons. Who makes them to be so ? If there is an effective pemantauan system, a lot of conflicts can be cut down. The pengetua will not go away with the idea that she can do anything she likes. But of course, sometimes, we may not know if the higher authorities want her to behave in an unprofessional, unethical, immoral manner.

  109. # scorpian6666 Says:

    “Those who free the BLACKS in the US from slavery had gone down the history as Great PEOPLE. I suppose only in Malaysia, politics of race and religion is TIDAK BOLEH. Give us a break !”

    Us? Who is ‘us’?

    Like the Count says the African Americans freed themselves. So let’s not insult the African Americans or the Civil Rights movement of the 60s.

    The politics of race and religion has been played by UMNO over some five decades. What is wrong?? It is divisive. As a result we have a nation which is deeply fractured. If the DAP were to go down the same wrong, then DAP is no better than the party it criticizes. Some call that hypocrisy.

  110. Some bloggers did mention whether PIBG in SMK BUD4 or parents already talked to HM before politicizing the issue.

    If the HM is still sturborn and acting like taliban after feedback from PIBG, the parents shall elevate the issue to state education department and lastly to Hishamuddin.

    IFF all official channels are exhausted, then can bring the issue to LKS or even to court room.

    I found chinese people have a habit of talking loud outside the arena, but behaving like a mouse when confrontating the issue face-to-face with HM or anyone.

  111. Uncle Lim is facing a dilemma: Should he enter into a pact with PAS and PKR and form an alternative government (similar to the shadow governments of the UK and Australia) for all Malaysians, or should he continue to distance the DAP from PAS to appease the hardcore supporters of the DAP.

    We will find out in the next one or two months. Statesmanship is not about short term gains. It is about having a long term vision for a country that one calls home. With Kit, my bet is that he will continue to appease his supporters so that he can remain as the leader of the Opposition, and not as the leader of all Malaysians.

  113. Jeffrey says:

    “That’s what I take TDM to say to everyone directly : “I can listen to anybody; can decide on any basis, reasonable or not, and its his prerogative not to account!”

    Does the Constitution say this? ”

    Doesn’t this confirm that Malaysia is just a one-man show. The PM is the be-all and end-all in Malaysian politics. So what’s the difference between Mahathir’s Malaysia & Mugabe’s Zimbabwe? The difference is Mugabe is the student and Mahathir is the mentor. Both are ‘dictators’ wearing the cloak of democracy!

  116. “With Kit, my bet is that he will continue to appease his supporters so that he can remain as the leader of the Opposition, and not as the leader of all Malaysians.”

    Some call this the politics of pragmatism.

  119. I suggest that she is sacked 1. to send a message others are human with culture too. 2. She has taken the power on her own hands and has stepped on the others. 3. this is not the only case….we need drastic action to be heard

  122. Oh BlackEye you still have nothing to offer .

    Still don’t get it …. to destroy a nation is not the same as to fix it. Put it this way 2-1 is not equal to 1-2

    Oh! by the way, why would you mention African Americans. I thought you don’t know the differences between “the US” and Us..I wonder what hypocrisy meant …

  123. Irrespective of what you people say,the issue on hand is to have the BU4 school headmistress amend her narrow minded acts or be removed.This is like the Chinese saying “to kill the chicken in order to warn the monkeys”.

  125. It is very clear now. This racial and religious discrimination must stop! Little Napoleons must diminish.

    The BN Government is wasting too much time attempting to fully Islamize the nation. Do not forget the joint-contributions of other races that has made Malaysia what it is today – otherwise some of us may still be living on trees. The least they could do is show everyone some respect – After all, this is what Allah commanded.

    With regards to the use of the name “Allah”, even the Holy Qur’an advocates tolerance of other religions and advises that Christians be allowed to worship God without fear and oppression:

    “Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve”. (Qur’an 2:62)

    “And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is swift in account”. (Qur’an3:199)

    I seriously think some of our Malaysian Muslim brothers & sisters are deeply confused and do not (or sometimes do not want to) comprehend the difference between Race and Religion. For example, when a non-Malay embraces Islam, I often hear people (esp. malay friends) remark, “Dia masuk melayu”. How can that be?! So, the question would be, if a Chinese man embraces Islam, would he be eligible to join uMno? Becoming a Muslim does not change one’s race! Or, does it mean that one has to be a Malay to be a Muslim? Is Islam ONLY for the Malays? Then why do some schools enforce “bacaan doa” in a school where the majority are non-Malays? Why do some schools insist that the songkok must be worn, etc.?

    All this uncleared confusion is leading to the increasing birthrate of Little Napoleons that will jeopardise the future of this country. Why can’t people just leave each other alone and instead struggle together for the survival and the future of this country? It is really time to MOVE ON and REALLY REALLY progress as the harmonious multi-racial, multi-religious country that we so proudly proclaim to the whole world.

    It is now time for all individuals worthy to be called Malaysians to stand strong together and put a stop to injustice and confusion. Vote for racial equality and freedom of religion! Vote for a better and safer tomorrow for yourselves and your children. Say NO to BN and corruption will diminish and this country will prosper.

  126. “The BN Government is wasting too much time attempting to fully Islamize the nation. Do not forget the joint-contributions of other races that has made Malaysia what it is today – otherwise some of us may still be living on trees”

    It is no longer a case of covert or creeping Islamization but a case of overt and accelerated Islamization. As for the ‘contribution’ of other races and living on trees, they rather have the trees to live on for themselves.

  127. “Often I hear people (esp. malay friends) remark, “Dia masuk melayu”. How can that be?!….All this uncleared confusion is leading to the increasing birthrate of Little Napoleons …”

    The ‘confusion’ is manufactured to confuse the issue.

  128. “With Kit, my bet is that he will continue to appease his supporters so that he can remain as the leader of the Opposition, and not as the leader of all Malaysians.”

    Some call this the politics of pragmatism.

    said BackEye
    ——————-

    okay wait a minutes … this is about the HM and the rights of the students under her, not an analysis of the Election outcome or is it… maybe some of you are in the political science.. no..not me.

    What is “the politics of pragmatism” I only think Kit is probably laughing from behind the blog… right kit

  130. “What is “the politics of pragmatism” I only think Kit is probably laughing from behind the blog… right kit”

    Nope. LKS knows what politics of pragmatism is all about. You don’t.

  131. “I would suggest for our schools to be split into muslim and non-muslim schools, following the current political make-up
    Malay = UMNO, Pas
    NON-Malay = MIC, MCA
    If these still could not solve the problem or it is unthinkable, then NO MALAY HM for schools with Majority NON-MALAY.”

    Whoever said this must be awfully young, naive and perhaps even stupid.

  132. Napoleon oh no , at least he had some brains , these people are completely DUNGUS, MORONS ,IMBERCILES. They are the product of NEP, it wud have been totally different if they were at the ( HM )post as a result of MERITOCRACY. There is no intellect whatsoever in these people., they act on instinct , envy and jeolousy. I wonder if they know that the world is ROUND.

    When I say intiinct and envy, she would probably had made up her mind when she heard the Chinese beating the drums and they sounded like UNTUNG, UNTUNG, UNTUNG. and then the the envy wud have turned to hatred,yes that what hv they been thought by UMNO , to call the nons, infidels and God know what other names, thats why they so brazenly do these things knowing that they have the tacit support of the ruling party., for god sake someone pls tell the BBC and CNN to stop airing the malaysia truly ASIA clip , becos tht’s only meant for propoganda, just as the Germans use to do during world war 2.Uncle Kit, i’m sure u cud do something , let the truth prevail.

    What a MORON

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  134. # BoDo Singh Says:

    “I would suggest for our schools to be split into muslim and non-muslim schools, following the current political make-up
    Malay = UMNO, Pas
    NON-Malay = MIC, MCA
    If these still could not solve the problem or it is unthinkable, then NO MALAY HM for schools with Majority NON-MALAY.”

    Whoever said this must be awfully young, naive and perhaps even stupid.
    ——————————
    Thanks …. I am that fellow and thanks for making me young again but please enlightened me as it hurts to be STUPID

    Do you meant “NO Malay HM for schools with majority NON-Malay” a stupid idea?
    Do you think it is a GOOD IDEA for SAMMY to be HEADING UMNO

    THAT’s probably a STUPID idea !
    ——
    YOu kind of remind me of ALL these Politician chanting to the crowd without any subject out of the BLUE …..

    “The OPPOSITion LIES”

    Yes …. about what ????
    ——————-

    BY the way … we wanted someone smart to offer some SMART SOLUTION in regards to this HM case ? LET’s see what you got surely you have something up your sleeve … plse plse plse ..at least let the bloggers judge how smart you are plse plse plse else –[deleted -]

  135. Damn! BlackEYE (okay plse dont be offended) I am waiting for someone like you to bring out this ..
    Could someone talk about Malaysian Economy Package, rather than telling us bloggers how much you know about Politics !

    Let hear from all the Parties what They had to say about their visions and what they had to offer. For NOW replace the HM concern till after the election..Plse UMNO!
    Uh!
    Got a complain too about the school…
    I never get Government Loan for my children books in their primary education… but I was anticipating having more MONIES to spend this year when i hear I too going to get Book Loan.
    But “wo la la” I could believe my eyes this year, I had more money of “tons” of WORKBOOKS !
    My daughters in Form ONe has to buy all these bright coloured Exercise books from the school cooperative.. I don’t mind that but why the waste of monies having all those coloured covers !!!! Now teachers job are more easy now, the kids just have to fill their workbooks.
    —-That what we should be talking about too — MONIES !!!!!!

    Any one with better idea to lower the price of OIL … better yet RICE !

  137. “I would suggest for our schools to be split into muslim and non-muslim schools, following the current political make-up
    Malay = UMNO, Pas
    NON-Malay = MIC, MCA
    If these still could not solve the problem or it is unthinkable, then NO MALAY HM for schools with Majority NON-MALAY.”

    Why stupid idea. Even at mamak stalls people say it`s the only solution. Obviously the idea appeals to many.

  138. We are trying for decades to have integration and here we have some DAP supporters who are in favour of segregation. *Sigh* Please think carefully before you even utter such suggestions.

  139. well the main problem is the HM doesnt explains her action or clarify anything with the students / parents! thats why most students thinking are all because of influence and rumours spread. pls HM explain what has been hapenning soon enough before the worst. apparently, the lions dance was not allowed because she doesnt want to wake those staying around the school up. it shouldnt really matter right? its only one day in a year!

  141. As far as I’m concerned, this issue regarding the school’s Principal has been sorted out and settled within. I’m with hopes that this issue will not be carried on as it will not bring any benefits. As messages have turned into rumours, many are not aware of the real happenings in this school. Problem should be considered solved if the public will stop spreading rumours.

  142. Godfather,

    u are at least stating the obvious, i agree with u. i will vote for PAS even if its in my are because of after what UMNO has done, i dont know how you can say that with PAS, it will be worse for the non-malays.

    DAP, stop preaching about segregation. you want to be a opposition leader, then continue to do what you are doing.

    all this rubbish about racial segregation is beginning to turn me off.
    you guys continue to vote Gerakan/MCA if the opposition is PAS, then you dont bloody continue to complain of how UMNO this and that in the future.

    i have had enough of this “so called” hardcore DAP supporters here.
    if you cant see yourself as malaysians in the future, then all hope is gone.

    ask yourself do you really think PAS will be worse than UMNO now and you keep on worrying about that, where did that worry came from? the MSM? please guys, after all that you have been thru with BN, you think its going to get any better?

    if we can kick out the present govt, in 5 years time, we can kick out that new govt if we feel they are not doing a good job.

    or are we all just suckers? by the looks of it, there are just too many suckers here even on the page of an “opposition leader” blog.

  143. If this doesnt make the electorate vote the opposition in…..Malaysia is a gone case…..the internet is the saviour.. for without it we will never know what other atrocities these numbskulls are up to…..

  144. I agree with raven77,
    besides blogs, you can also visit online newspapers in the UK, USA, Bangkok Post etc.

    Our newspapers is good to watch non-political events happening. Even business news is over-politicised.

    Malaysiakini is good for the rest.

    See how good/bad we fared in US Dept of State’s Religious Freedom Index 2007. (This Index never made it to our press).
    http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2007/

  146. Just lately the Principal of the BU4 school has asked the students to ask her specific questions during the assembly. The students chosen were Chinese and the questions were written onto a piece of paper whereby the students will ask the question and she would reply.

    She replied that the “cheer team has not been scrap”, “that the Chinese drums would be allowed during Chinese New Year” plus many more questions which she has politely answered. The folloing last question was not answered.

    Why was the Chinese Teachers removed from all major repsonsibilities?

    Can somebody answer this? Dear Principal and if you are reading this, I hope that you can draw some light into this matter.

    Thanks

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